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**corolaelwis** · 02-22-2007, 11:01 PM

Actually, as a function of pure numbers of people globally, the world has been moving closer to socialism. (defined as affordable education, health care, and social assistance, etc..) There is only one country on the planet where the trend is opposite, the USA. And according to polls, this is the opposite of what people want.

Hmm i dunno, Germany and Britain's population is about 80 and 60 million respectivelty. France itself has about 60 million people and Canada about 30 million or so right? Now for those with conservative ad or soon to be conservative governments i think there has been a respresentative shift of people's views towads the right, Australia has another 20 million people and so many Eastern European nations that have taken so much to Free market captalism and toward conerative policy, the new Polish PM makes Bush look a liberal. In South America we have seen a shft back to te left but then agin bear in mind that America and Mexico's population alone (add in Canada and you have half a billion folk) matches South America alone. I think more and more folk like in France want to get away from the socalist system they have, and this is uder a right wing government, not left like Lepen would have wanted. I think maybe also the fact that one man's conservatism equals another's liberalism is also an issue, centreright government's i France wouldn't even get elected in Canada leave alone the U.S. I think this boils own to something else too which is that more and more liberals tend to be more vocal than conservatives but its generally conservatives that end up on top in the end. Remember how much of a hissy fit the idiotic leftist candidate in Mexico through after losing to Caledron? He basically modelled himself after Gore i think and he got his idea to appeal the election results from him too, but have you ever seen a conservative do that? Like with Bush in 2000 did you see us ranting and raving all the time? See we were on top on both outcomes right from the start, and we just normally, camly, rationally took our cases to the voters and basically explained what the situation was, on the other side though we sill have the same thing about the 2000 election being aired today, some foam in mouth liberals still think that Gore won. However take the loss for George Allen to Jim Webb last year, the vote tally was within the margin of error but did you see Allen appeal it and take battle after battle through the courts? See we usually know that we have he upper hand and therefore its the left that always protest us, do you think those of us who wanna have Iran attacked go out and protest the fact our government won't drop nuclear weapons on Iranian cities? Apart from the on issue of abortion how often do you see conservatives gong out full speed with posers and banners saying that this or that is wrong? Basically looking at it from a global view there are many more to the right than left IMO and many more who would see themselves as conervative than liberal by their own definiton and in relevance to their own cultures and beliefs.

02-22-2007, 11:01 PM	#38
corolaelwis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	Actually, as a function of pure numbers of people globally, the world has been moving closer to socialism. (defined as affordable education, health care, and social assistance, etc..) There is only one country on the planet where the trend is opposite, the USA. And according to polls, this is the opposite of what people want. Hmm i dunno, Germany and Britain's population is about 80 and 60 million respectivelty. France itself has about 60 million people and Canada about 30 million or so right? Now for those with conservative ad or soon to be conservative governments i think there has been a respresentative shift of people's views towads the right, Australia has another 20 million people and so many Eastern European nations that have taken so much to Free market captalism and toward conerative policy, the new Polish PM makes Bush look a liberal. In South America we have seen a shft back to te left but then agin bear in mind that America and Mexico's population alone (add in Canada and you have half a billion folk) matches South America alone. I think more and more folk like in France want to get away from the socalist system they have, and this is uder a right wing government, not left like Lepen would have wanted. I think maybe also the fact that one man's conservatism equals another's liberalism is also an issue, centreright government's i France wouldn't even get elected in Canada leave alone the U.S. I think this boils own to something else too which is that more and more liberals tend to be more vocal than conservatives but its generally conservatives that end up on top in the end. Remember how much of a hissy fit the idiotic leftist candidate in Mexico through after losing to Caledron? He basically modelled himself after Gore i think and he got his idea to appeal the election results from him too, but have you ever seen a conservative do that? Like with Bush in 2000 did you see us ranting and raving all the time? See we were on top on both outcomes right from the start, and we just normally, camly, rationally took our cases to the voters and basically explained what the situation was, on the other side though we sill have the same thing about the 2000 election being aired today, some foam in mouth liberals still think that Gore won. However take the loss for George Allen to Jim Webb last year, the vote tally was within the margin of error but did you see Allen appeal it and take battle after battle through the courts? See we usually know that we have he upper hand and therefore its the left that always protest us, do you think those of us who wanna have Iran attacked go out and protest the fact our government won't drop nuclear weapons on Iranian cities? Apart from the on issue of abortion how often do you see conservatives gong out full speed with posers and banners saying that this or that is wrong? Basically looking at it from a global view there are many more to the right than left IMO and many more who would see themselves as conervative than liberal by their own definiton and in relevance to their own cultures and beliefs.
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