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**MasdMnPa** · 02-21-2007, 03:30 PM

I also agree with much of that .. however, the exact same thing can be said of Bush and his handling of the federal government AND his appointment of a horse broker to head FEMA. Shouldn't you also be talking about the failure of the federal government if you're concerned about the lives of the people of NO?

Oh, yeah, the response to Katrina was a steaming pile of failure from the local government up to the white house. The only leader who really seemed to have it together was Lt. Gen. Russel Honore. That guy had it wired tight, went in and got the job done.

Does the sentiment of the people of NO count?

Was Nagin responsible for the image of America that was put on the world stage?

Nagin bears a part of that responsibility, yes. He played a significant - but not sole - role in the totally inept response to Katrina. His failure to follow the state disaster plan played a role in the lives that were lost.

Was Nagin responsible for the actions of FEMA?

No, but it is worthy of note that up until Katrina, the understanding was that the state and local authorities were responsible for the first 48-72 hours post-disaster, and that FEMA would show up around the 72 hour mark with loads of toys and manpower.

FEMA definitely failed in their responsibility, but the local and state responses didn't exactly make the earth move either.

With the spate of crime and GUN violence that plauges NO today, I hardly see how less guns are the problem.

Again, stop focusing on the gun and look at the bigger picture. The Constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure was utterly raped. People were subjected - sometimes forcibly - to searches of their homes without a search warrant, and without probable cause.

Matt

02-21-2007, 03:30 PM	#27
MasdMnPa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 425 Senior Member	I also agree with much of that .. however, the exact same thing can be said of Bush and his handling of the federal government AND his appointment of a horse broker to head FEMA. Shouldn't you also be talking about the failure of the federal government if you're concerned about the lives of the people of NO? Oh, yeah, the response to Katrina was a steaming pile of failure from the local government up to the white house. The only leader who really seemed to have it together was Lt. Gen. Russel Honore. That guy had it wired tight, went in and got the job done. Does the sentiment of the people of NO count? Was Nagin responsible for the image of America that was put on the world stage? Nagin bears a part of that responsibility, yes. He played a significant - but not sole - role in the totally inept response to Katrina. His failure to follow the state disaster plan played a role in the lives that were lost. Was Nagin responsible for the actions of FEMA? No, but it is worthy of note that up until Katrina, the understanding was that the state and local authorities were responsible for the first 48-72 hours post-disaster, and that FEMA would show up around the 72 hour mark with loads of toys and manpower. FEMA definitely failed in their responsibility, but the local and state responses didn't exactly make the earth move either. With the spate of crime and GUN violence that plauges NO today, I hardly see how less guns are the problem. Again, stop focusing on the gun and look at the bigger picture. The Constitutional right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure was utterly raped. People were subjected - sometimes forcibly - to searches of their homes without a search warrant, and without probable cause. Matt
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