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**ballingham** · 02-16-2007, 10:40 PM

collusion ? how so?

well good for feingold, then why doesn't he introduce a bill pulling the funding?

did I personally allude to anger? I said IF I were an anti war person, I would be upset that my leadership won’t come right-out and take action in a meaningful and concrete manner….. that they are spinning their wheels instead of actually doing something meaningful.....

Now you're going into hysterics. First of all, discourse on the War in Iraq never saw the light of day with the rubberstamp Congress, okay? Now that we have a new Congress, these actions being taken are bring public discourse into the light of day.

You can't just hop, skip, and jump from elected into Congress and next day stopping a war. You are just being childish on this subject. Even a page in Congress knows that stopping a war without discourse would certainly backfire... duh! You don't think Democrats can predict Republicans screaming foul if they did that?

What they are doing is getting discourse on the subject so when they do move forward they will have the ability to say that they have heard all arguments on the subject and will proceed to move forward on ending the war. That takes ammunition away from the Republicans.

I am "mad" as its a waste.....and nets no one anything other than the T's who see the divisiveness and the troops who’s moral suffers......as I said IF the anti war crowd were to get on board for one more heave ho, this would play a lot differently …..my contention is, they are shooting themselves in the foot….we all can respect a man for his convictions…I do..in my eyes the are right or wrong isn’t necessarily the sine qua non that frames my feelings….I respect honest disagreement………its the games I hate…. Disingenuous. You had no problems with the Republican Congress. May I refer to the games being played on K Street that you have no problem with. May I refer to the many indictments the last Congress sponged in. Get real, your angle is purely partisan. Do you really think you can fool others into believing otherwise? Your comments are purely inconsistent except on the angle that Democrats can do no right.

the American public by and large suffers memory lapses when election time comes but this will be as it was before different….either put up, or shut up...they are playing a cheap theatrical game of nonsense....just do it..if thats how they feel and believe, then do it..I have more respect for Kennedy/Feingold right now than Pelosi by far… et al...at least he’s up front and hasn't played games ....but still adding to that HE should introduce a bill as well..BUT his dem leadership won't let him...there ya go...I wonder why? Discourse is not a cheap theatrical game of nonsense. Why not just say "What the hell is debate all about in a Democracy?!" Again, you make no sense.

02-16-2007, 10:40 PM	#33
ballingham Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 477 Senior Member	collusion ? how so? well good for feingold, then why doesn't he introduce a bill pulling the funding? did I personally allude to anger? I said IF I were an anti war person, I would be upset that my leadership won’t come right-out and take action in a meaningful and concrete manner….. that they are spinning their wheels instead of actually doing something meaningful..... Now you're going into hysterics. First of all, discourse on the War in Iraq never saw the light of day with the rubberstamp Congress, okay? Now that we have a new Congress, these actions being taken are bring public discourse into the light of day. You can't just hop, skip, and jump from elected into Congress and next day stopping a war. You are just being childish on this subject. Even a page in Congress knows that stopping a war without discourse would certainly backfire... duh! You don't think Democrats can predict Republicans screaming foul if they did that? What they are doing is getting discourse on the subject so when they do move forward they will have the ability to say that they have heard all arguments on the subject and will proceed to move forward on ending the war. That takes ammunition away from the Republicans. I am "mad" as its a waste.....and nets no one anything other than the T's who see the divisiveness and the troops who’s moral suffers......as I said IF the anti war crowd were to get on board for one more heave ho, this would play a lot differently …..my contention is, they are shooting themselves in the foot….we all can respect a man for his convictions…I do..in my eyes the are right or wrong isn’t necessarily the sine qua non that frames my feelings….I respect honest disagreement………its the games I hate…. Disingenuous. You had no problems with the Republican Congress. May I refer to the games being played on K Street that you have no problem with. May I refer to the many indictments the last Congress sponged in. Get real, your angle is purely partisan. Do you really think you can fool others into believing otherwise? Your comments are purely inconsistent except on the angle that Democrats can do no right. the American public by and large suffers memory lapses when election time comes but this will be as it was before different….either put up, or shut up...they are playing a cheap theatrical game of nonsense....just do it..if thats how they feel and believe, then do it..I have more respect for Kennedy/Feingold right now than Pelosi by far… et al...at least he’s up front and hasn't played games ....but still adding to that HE should introduce a bill as well..BUT his dem leadership won't let him...there ya go...I wonder why? Discourse is not a cheap theatrical game of nonsense. Why not just say "What the hell is debate all about in a Democracy?!" Again, you make no sense.
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