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**Thifiadardivy** · 03-02-2007, 12:18 PM

I think you make some fair points - definitely - but you go too far with your categories. I assume (maybe I am wrong?) that you are not a conservative. I can assure you that things look different from the inside - just as I would not really know the details of how left-wingers deal with each other.

Many conservatives disgaree with Bush and (especially) Cheney and (even more especially) Rumsfeld and Rice, but there are not many people who are interested in our views.

Also, the only thing worse than Bush is the radical left - Pelosi and her gang. So until recently, disagreement with Bush is automatically perceived as support for the left.

Also, most of us liked some of Bush's early policies, espcially on the economy. The tax cuts helped keep a recession from becoming a depression.

I know exactly what you mean. You were right earlier when he/she said that most traditional conservatives keep their mouths shut. I'm not one, but I agree with it and wish it weren't so. That's part of the problem. The left and other uninformed people foolishly call Bush and Co. "conservatives" and destroy the name via either not knowing simple differences or just plain smearing. And it's a shame because there are some liberals who haven't strayed too far from Classical Jeffersonian Liberalism, are still sane, and can actually discuss the topic.

@ pram - I don't think true conservatives can be branded simply as 'keeping the status quo'. Most do embrace some change, but prefer to hold true to methods or ways of doing things that have consistently proven to work. So in one sense, maybe you're correct, but most of them are not bible thumping crazies who have their minds chisled in stone.

03-02-2007, 12:18 PM	#28
Thifiadardivy Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 552 Senior Member	I think you make some fair points - definitely - but you go too far with your categories. I assume (maybe I am wrong?) that you are not a conservative. I can assure you that things look different from the inside - just as I would not really know the details of how left-wingers deal with each other. Many conservatives disgaree with Bush and (especially) Cheney and (even more especially) Rumsfeld and Rice, but there are not many people who are interested in our views. Also, the only thing worse than Bush is the radical left - Pelosi and her gang. So until recently, disagreement with Bush is automatically perceived as support for the left. Also, most of us liked some of Bush's early policies, espcially on the economy. The tax cuts helped keep a recession from becoming a depression. I know exactly what you mean. You were right earlier when he/she said that most traditional conservatives keep their mouths shut. I'm not one, but I agree with it and wish it weren't so. That's part of the problem. The left and other uninformed people foolishly call Bush and Co. "conservatives" and destroy the name via either not knowing simple differences or just plain smearing. And it's a shame because there are some liberals who haven't strayed too far from Classical Jeffersonian Liberalism, are still sane, and can actually discuss the topic. @ pram - I don't think true conservatives can be branded simply as 'keeping the status quo'. Most do embrace some change, but prefer to hold true to methods or ways of doing things that have consistently proven to work. So in one sense, maybe you're correct, but most of them are not bible thumping crazies who have their minds chisled in stone.
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