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**Gedominew** · 03-02-2007, 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=Tim;908969]

I agree on both points.

I certainly fit the category of those who feel personally disenfranchised, but I am definitely not ready to leave the GOP. Individual libertarian candidates are appealing and I would vote for one, but they aren't really a party.

As for the Democrats - I am a WASP, church-attending Christian, straight, suit-wearing, capitalist male. In the world of the Democrats, with their categories of oppressors and victims, I am Public Enemy Number One. There is no place for me there.

The Republican party is still the party of Reagan. The neocons are a brief page in history. When Bush is gone, his whole administration will leave as well. Then there is hope.

Yes, that is definitely true. But there is another factor: most of us (traditional conservatives) keep our mouths shut.

I agree with you that once Bush is gone there is hope for the GOP, but I suspect the direction I would like to see that hope progress toward is a lot different from the direction you would take. Reagan was a pragmatist that talked a good conservative game. If you want a conservative in the republican party you have to go back to Goldwater really. While Reagan was clearly more conservative than those that came before him, save for Godwater, he was not a true conservative. Reagan had no problem coming to agreement with the opposition if it gained him something he wanted, and in return they got something they wanted. Hence the pragmatism. Now if this is what you would like to see the GOP return to then I guess we are in agreement. If not I suspect we will be batteleing each other to try and direct the GOP alnog our partiular paths.

03-02-2007, 01:12 PM	#30
Gedominew Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 519 Senior Member	[QUOTE=Tim;908969] I agree on both points. I certainly fit the category of those who feel personally disenfranchised, but I am definitely not ready to leave the GOP. Individual libertarian candidates are appealing and I would vote for one, but they aren't really a party. As for the Democrats - I am a WASP, church-attending Christian, straight, suit-wearing, capitalist male. In the world of the Democrats, with their categories of oppressors and victims, I am Public Enemy Number One. There is no place for me there. The Republican party is still the party of Reagan. The neocons are a brief page in history. When Bush is gone, his whole administration will leave as well. Then there is hope. Yes, that is definitely true. But there is another factor: most of us (traditional conservatives) keep our mouths shut. I agree with you that once Bush is gone there is hope for the GOP, but I suspect the direction I would like to see that hope progress toward is a lot different from the direction you would take. Reagan was a pragmatist that talked a good conservative game. If you want a conservative in the republican party you have to go back to Goldwater really. While Reagan was clearly more conservative than those that came before him, save for Godwater, he was not a true conservative. Reagan had no problem coming to agreement with the opposition if it gained him something he wanted, and in return they got something they wanted. Hence the pragmatism. Now if this is what you would like to see the GOP return to then I guess we are in agreement. If not I suspect we will be batteleing each other to try and direct the GOP alnog our partiular paths.
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