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**gkruCRi1** · 01-20-2007, 09:59 PM

If Hillary's the best they have, then look for a Republican President in 2008!

I'm not so sure of that. And Clinton woudn't run if she thought she couldn't win--she's too savvy to be that kind of fool.

To date, I'm still looking at who is going to be the Republican candidate for 2008 who can both clear the primary and then gain enough support to win the national election. Who is that person going to be? Anyone have thoughts on that?

Hillary, if she wins the primary, will likely get most of the Dem vote anyway on party lines by default unless the Rep candidate has some major overriding appeal.

Most Reps will likely vote against Clinton also on party lines. She wouldn't be concerned about those voters or their negative remarks because she already knows they are not obtainable votes anyway.

The key are the swing and independent voters.

The majority of those have been tracking left since Bush who is still in office like an albatross over the heads of those who survived the Congressional cleanout. He will not be running, but it sets the tone all the way through the election because he will be the POTUS. I mean, John Kerry--a person who I think Terry McAuliffe described right as having committed some of the biggest political malpractice of all time in wasting gift horse advantages to lose in 2004--got 48% of the vote, and most did that just because he was not Bush. That is how toxic the air has been.

Many of those independent voters are also younger or career single women, a favourable pool for her if the Republican candidate will be a social conservative, something I think the candidate would need to be to clear the primaries and get the base motivated. I'm sure that Hillary also noted that she drew well and/or chipped away noticeably in the traditionally very Republican 'red' areas of rural upstate and western New York in her Senate races through women voters.

Politics can change in a week, and a good scandal or something can change whole pictures rapidly, but she is not a forgone loser by any means. That is why I am really curious as to who will finally be the Rep candidate for 2008--it's a critical choice.

01-20-2007, 09:59 PM	#21
gkruCRi1 Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	If Hillary's the best they have, then look for a Republican President in 2008! I'm not so sure of that. And Clinton woudn't run if she thought she couldn't win--she's too savvy to be that kind of fool. To date, I'm still looking at who is going to be the Republican candidate for 2008 who can both clear the primary and then gain enough support to win the national election. Who is that person going to be? Anyone have thoughts on that? Hillary, if she wins the primary, will likely get most of the Dem vote anyway on party lines by default unless the Rep candidate has some major overriding appeal. Most Reps will likely vote against Clinton also on party lines. She wouldn't be concerned about those voters or their negative remarks because she already knows they are not obtainable votes anyway. The key are the swing and independent voters. The majority of those have been tracking left since Bush who is still in office like an albatross over the heads of those who survived the Congressional cleanout. He will not be running, but it sets the tone all the way through the election because he will be the POTUS. I mean, John Kerry--a person who I think Terry McAuliffe described right as having committed some of the biggest political malpractice of all time in wasting gift horse advantages to lose in 2004--got 48% of the vote, and most did that just because he was not Bush. That is how toxic the air has been. Many of those independent voters are also younger or career single women, a favourable pool for her if the Republican candidate will be a social conservative, something I think the candidate would need to be to clear the primaries and get the base motivated. I'm sure that Hillary also noted that she drew well and/or chipped away noticeably in the traditionally very Republican 'red' areas of rural upstate and western New York in her Senate races through women voters. Politics can change in a week, and a good scandal or something can change whole pictures rapidly, but she is not a forgone loser by any means. That is why I am really curious as to who will finally be the Rep candidate for 2008--it's a critical choice.
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