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**Ikrleprl** · 01-19-2007, 05:27 PM

I've also seen kids (my experience as a teacher) who were completely out of control, and I know that they would get "whoopins" at home. Did this corporal punishment prevent them from being little assholes? Nope.

As I said, it works on some kids, not on others. Parents must decide, not some overbearing government.

And for the ones on which it does work, it must be done EARLY, as I also pointed out. The purpose is to deliver the message that Mommy or Daddy mean what they say and must be obeyed. Once that's delivered, the kid WILL remember it, and subsequent spankings are usually not needed at all.

But a kid who grows up used to doing bad things and NOT getting any meaningful correction ("explaining" things to him works for some, but not for others as we've all seen), won't get any benefit from being spanked at age 5 or whatever. Then it's not a result of his bad behavior - he already knows there are no consequences to his behavior. Then it is only Mommy or Daddy getting angry and being mean. Very little corrective effect.

That bureaucrat in the article who said kids under 3 shouldn't be spanked, doesn't understand the purpose and effect of spanking on kids where it works. Many parents don't either. In fact, if a kid hasn't been spanked before that time, doing it afterward has much LESS chance of working, and is probably useless.

But putting government in chage of child discipline is about the worst possible solution to the problem. They should limit their intrusiveness to genuine child ABUSE, which spanking isn't.

01-19-2007, 05:27 PM	#8
Ikrleprl Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 534 Senior Member	I've also seen kids (my experience as a teacher) who were completely out of control, and I know that they would get "whoopins" at home. Did this corporal punishment prevent them from being little assholes? Nope. As I said, it works on some kids, not on others. Parents must decide, not some overbearing government. And for the ones on which it does work, it must be done EARLY, as I also pointed out. The purpose is to deliver the message that Mommy or Daddy mean what they say and must be obeyed. Once that's delivered, the kid WILL remember it, and subsequent spankings are usually not needed at all. But a kid who grows up used to doing bad things and NOT getting any meaningful correction ("explaining" things to him works for some, but not for others as we've all seen), won't get any benefit from being spanked at age 5 or whatever. Then it's not a result of his bad behavior - he already knows there are no consequences to his behavior. Then it is only Mommy or Daddy getting angry and being mean. Very little corrective effect. That bureaucrat in the article who said kids under 3 shouldn't be spanked, doesn't understand the purpose and effect of spanking on kids where it works. Many parents don't either. In fact, if a kid hasn't been spanked before that time, doing it afterward has much LESS chance of working, and is probably useless. But putting government in chage of child discipline is about the worst possible solution to the problem. They should limit their intrusiveness to genuine child ABUSE, which spanking isn't.
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