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**ahagotyou** · 10-02-2007, 07:39 AM

I noted with interest that the President intents to send another 20,000 or so military men and women to their possible death or maiming in Iraq. I want to make just a few points.
A- This war was won when the Iraqi held elections. We promised them a democracy and from now on its up to them to keep it. We are not there to referee a civil war.

It is true that the goals stated in the Iraq War Resolution have been met long ago, however it was so sucessful so quickly that it suddenly developed a case of mission creep. Suddenly we had a opportunity to kill hundreds of Al Qaida members and help the new Iraqi goverment become a valuable ally.

B- If "mistakes were made", should someone not be held responsible. Like the Secretary of Defense who was told over and over again that things were not working out?

Bush takes responsibility for the mistakes. You know like Truman, "the buck stops here".

C- And finally: This war will, as always, be paid for with the blood of the lower and middle classes. When the presidents daughters enlist for officer cadet training it will be OK for my grandchildren to go. As long as they stay home, I hope my grandchildren do too.

As soon as the Army upped the age limit for new recruits making me eligable again I went to see a recruiter because I think what they are doing now is extremely important to the future of the world.

I know that soldiers don't make much money for the amount of work they do and it's hard for many of them to make ends meet. However because I worked hard (sometimes 3 & 4 jobs at a time) and invested wisely when I was younger money isn't really a big issue for me. I am now in a position where I only work because I want to, not because I have too. Hell, I could retire comfortably if I wanted and I'm not even 40 yet.

However the Army rejected me because of my extensive criminal record. I broke alot of laws in my younger wilder days because I got caught up in that whole drugs and gangs thing. For a while there I was in and out of jail alot.

But I do agree that lower income people are more likely to lured into the armed forces. That is because many more affluent people are not going to be satisfied with the opportunities the Armed Services can offer them.

I wouldn't want my kids to join because it would stifle their future opportunities and sidetrack their education and carreers.

The thing I didn't like about the speech was that Bush got into too much detail. I must question the prudence of going on worldwide television and announcing our strategy to the enemy. He might as well have just shouted, "Hey Al Qaida, we are making a major push into Baghdad, pack up your shit, get out of Dodge, and go attack Kirkuk before we kill your asses in Baghdad!"

" PS. We are sending 5 brigades to Baghdad, you might want to set alot of IED's on the roads to Baghdad before you leave"

What I mean is, the enemy has TV's too you know.

If there is a need for an increase of troops in Baghdad, you just do it. You don't fucking tell them you are going to do it first. That shit should be TOP SECRET!!!.

I think Bush is letting pressure from the left get to him. He is not used to a hostile majority in congress. He needs to learn to ignore them.

10-02-2007, 07:39 AM	#4
ahagotyou Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	Transcript of Bush's Speech I noted with interest that the President intents to send another 20,000 or so military men and women to their possible death or maiming in Iraq. I want to make just a few points. A- This war was won when the Iraqi held elections. We promised them a democracy and from now on its up to them to keep it. We are not there to referee a civil war. It is true that the goals stated in the Iraq War Resolution have been met long ago, however it was so sucessful so quickly that it suddenly developed a case of mission creep. Suddenly we had a opportunity to kill hundreds of Al Qaida members and help the new Iraqi goverment become a valuable ally. B- If "mistakes were made", should someone not be held responsible. Like the Secretary of Defense who was told over and over again that things were not working out? Bush takes responsibility for the mistakes. You know like Truman, "the buck stops here". C- And finally: This war will, as always, be paid for with the blood of the lower and middle classes. When the presidents daughters enlist for officer cadet training it will be OK for my grandchildren to go. As long as they stay home, I hope my grandchildren do too. As soon as the Army upped the age limit for new recruits making me eligable again I went to see a recruiter because I think what they are doing now is extremely important to the future of the world. I know that soldiers don't make much money for the amount of work they do and it's hard for many of them to make ends meet. However because I worked hard (sometimes 3 & 4 jobs at a time) and invested wisely when I was younger money isn't really a big issue for me. I am now in a position where I only work because I want to, not because I have too. Hell, I could retire comfortably if I wanted and I'm not even 40 yet. However the Army rejected me because of my extensive criminal record. I broke alot of laws in my younger wilder days because I got caught up in that whole drugs and gangs thing. For a while there I was in and out of jail alot. But I do agree that lower income people are more likely to lured into the armed forces. That is because many more affluent people are not going to be satisfied with the opportunities the Armed Services can offer them. I wouldn't want my kids to join because it would stifle their future opportunities and sidetrack their education and carreers. The thing I didn't like about the speech was that Bush got into too much detail. I must question the prudence of going on worldwide television and announcing our strategy to the enemy. He might as well have just shouted, "Hey Al Qaida, we are making a major push into Baghdad, pack up your shit, get out of Dodge, and go attack Kirkuk before we kill your asses in Baghdad!" " PS. We are sending 5 brigades to Baghdad, you might want to set alot of IED's on the roads to Baghdad before you leave" What I mean is, the enemy has TV's too you know. If there is a need for an increase of troops in Baghdad, you just do it. You don't fucking tell them you are going to do it first. That shit should be TOP SECRET!!!. I think Bush is letting pressure from the left get to him. He is not used to a hostile majority in congress. He needs to learn to ignore them.
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