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**ahagotyou** · 11-01-2007, 01:27 PM

As you well know, he did not claim Victory. He said the Mission was accomplished, which was the invasion of Iraq and destruction of Sadaams regime. He has not claimed victory in the war on islamic fascism which is what is going on in Iraq now. If you want to make jokes, we have a "just for fun" section. Sarcasm adds nothing to the debate.

Good point jviehe. That style of sarcasm is just a backhanded way to present strawman argument. Sarcasm is great for an aside to punctuate a point you have already made or to make a joke, but if you use as the main point of your post it is simply a cowardly avoidance of the issue. A strawman.

And the Anti-USA activists' criticism of a "mission accomplished" banner on an ship returning to port after a long deployment is nothing but a diversion.

I'm sure the sailors on that ship felt that they did accomplish their mission and it was fucking great that the President went there and told them so in person. He let them know that their efforts are important and appreciated.

Of course that's going to piss-off anti-USA zealots and they will try to downplay and mischaracterize events like that. Anything that praises the sailors that contributed to the downfall of the bastion of socialism in the Mid-East, Der Furher Hussein, is going to piss off the leftos.

11-01-2007, 01:27 PM	#11
ahagotyou Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 571 Senior Member	As you well know, he did not claim Victory. He said the Mission was accomplished, which was the invasion of Iraq and destruction of Sadaams regime. He has not claimed victory in the war on islamic fascism which is what is going on in Iraq now. If you want to make jokes, we have a "just for fun" section. Sarcasm adds nothing to the debate. Good point jviehe. That style of sarcasm is just a backhanded way to present strawman argument. Sarcasm is great for an aside to punctuate a point you have already made or to make a joke, but if you use as the main point of your post it is simply a cowardly avoidance of the issue. A strawman. And the Anti-USA activists' criticism of a "mission accomplished" banner on an ship returning to port after a long deployment is nothing but a diversion. I'm sure the sailors on that ship felt that they did accomplish their mission and it was fucking great that the President went there and told them so in person. He let them know that their efforts are important and appreciated. Of course that's going to piss-off anti-USA zealots and they will try to downplay and mischaracterize events like that. Anything that praises the sailors that contributed to the downfall of the bastion of socialism in the Mid-East, Der Furher Hussein, is going to piss off the leftos.
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