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**Susanleech** · 12-31-2006, 06:43 PM

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Stop being a jerk, please.

1. The US was implicated in the little oil for food scandal, just as much as anyone else
2. *ONLY* the US is implicated in the multi-billion dollar fraud that is going on in Iraq today - the amount of money your companies stole since 2003, is *many times more* than what French, German, Chinese and Russian companies grabbed, combined.

You know this, the entire world knows this. Stop being a loser.

I never said the U.S. wasnt profiting off of Iraq. I will say that France, Russia, Germany, and China were opposed to it because Iraq served their purposes. Not a single one of those four has proven itself to be a peaceful and selfless nation in its long history. And as I have said before--if you people call Iraq our problem--why shouldnt we be the one to fix it?

The simple point is that France and Germany were, like all normal governments, moderately well informed, moderately rational and moderately smart, and could thus warn you over the dangers of illegally invading Iraq. You just happen to have had the bad luck of electing an idiot, who created an idiotic government, with idiotic ideas, well below the average intelligence of the average citizen of an averagely developed country. Hence France's astonishment when it heard your governments silly and absurd ideas. Hence the Germans' need to scream - they could never have imagined that at this day and age, a government could be so dumb. Yeah, just keep kissing that ass. Stop putting France and Germany on such a high level. These four nations had a stake in Iraq and thats why they didnt invade like the rest of the world did--not just the U.S. Yes, the rest of the world was for the war in Iraq at the begining. Why not these four? Perhaps because of the money to be made in Iraq. These four nations do the same as the U.S. when it comes to throwing around its weight to benefit its political interests and economic interests. Dont put us on a pedestal because the rest of the modernized world does it. You think France is some great humanitarian? Look to it in the 90's and even today. France had a role in the genocide in Rwanda and continues to have a grip in Africa. Why is it still there?

But I understand that it must be excruciatingly horrible for you to admit this fact. It puts your entire nation to shame. And? The U.S. is shamed everyday by something else whether it be Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, our obesity epidemic (which is also taking a huge toll in France and Western Europe), etc. We are the one true power and everyone hates us because of it. Europe is simply a jealous stepsister to the U.S. and they have always been critical of us---ignoring their own offenses. We have to live with Vietnam and Iraq---the Germans sweep their support of Hitler and the murder of 6 million people under their rugs made in China by slave labor.

From the moment on that you are capable of recognizing your mistake - as a nation - you can start to make a beginning of joining the normal, moderately intelligent nations of this world. Iraq was a mistake. We shouldnt have invaded and its a waste of time trying to work with these people. We have to live with it and make it work. In retrospect, there was much more the U.S. could have done with this time, money, and blood. However, Saddam was an evil man who needed to be taken out. The intelligent world would have sit on its hands just like it always have. Europe would have ignored the problems they helped create the Middle East and cried to the U.S. to fix them when it got out of control---when these evil men all had nukes and used them against innocents. Just like in WWII where the "intelligent nations" tried to kiss Hitlers ass and not spark a war.

For the time being, it is best for you to lower your tone, because you have a lot to learn. Reality proves this every single day. Explain this to me? Im too much of a stupid American to understand.

But about who stole what, we can only say one thing: American companies stole many more billions since they entered Iraq in 2003, than all other companies from all other major powers combined during the oil for food scandal. On that, you really have to stop being a jerk I want lots of proof of this. Dont just make something up like that. And you called me a jerk already--but I havent called you an arrogant punk yet.

12-31-2006, 06:43 PM	#21
Susanleech Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 451 Senior Member	[QUOTE] Stop being a jerk, please. 1. The US was implicated in the little oil for food scandal, just as much as anyone else 2. ONLY the US is implicated in the multi-billion dollar fraud that is going on in Iraq today - the amount of money your companies stole since 2003, is many times more than what French, German, Chinese and Russian companies grabbed, combined. You know this, the entire world knows this. Stop being a loser. I never said the U.S. wasnt profiting off of Iraq. I will say that France, Russia, Germany, and China were opposed to it because Iraq served their purposes. Not a single one of those four has proven itself to be a peaceful and selfless nation in its long history. And as I have said before--if you people call Iraq our problem--why shouldnt we be the one to fix it? The simple point is that France and Germany were, like all normal governments, moderately well informed, moderately rational and moderately smart, and could thus warn you over the dangers of illegally invading Iraq. You just happen to have had the bad luck of electing an idiot, who created an idiotic government, with idiotic ideas, well below the average intelligence of the average citizen of an averagely developed country. Hence France's astonishment when it heard your governments silly and absurd ideas. Hence the Germans' need to scream - they could never have imagined that at this day and age, a government could be so dumb. Yeah, just keep kissing that ass. Stop putting France and Germany on such a high level. These four nations had a stake in Iraq and thats why they didnt invade like the rest of the world did--not just the U.S. Yes, the rest of the world was for the war in Iraq at the begining. Why not these four? Perhaps because of the money to be made in Iraq. These four nations do the same as the U.S. when it comes to throwing around its weight to benefit its political interests and economic interests. Dont put us on a pedestal because the rest of the modernized world does it. You think France is some great humanitarian? Look to it in the 90's and even today. France had a role in the genocide in Rwanda and continues to have a grip in Africa. Why is it still there? But I understand that it must be excruciatingly horrible for you to admit this fact. It puts your entire nation to shame. And? The U.S. is shamed everyday by something else whether it be Michael Jackson, Mike Tyson, our obesity epidemic (which is also taking a huge toll in France and Western Europe), etc. We are the one true power and everyone hates us because of it. Europe is simply a jealous stepsister to the U.S. and they have always been critical of us---ignoring their own offenses. We have to live with Vietnam and Iraq---the Germans sweep their support of Hitler and the murder of 6 million people under their rugs made in China by slave labor. From the moment on that you are capable of recognizing your mistake - as a nation - you can start to make a beginning of joining the normal, moderately intelligent nations of this world. Iraq was a mistake. We shouldnt have invaded and its a waste of time trying to work with these people. We have to live with it and make it work. In retrospect, there was much more the U.S. could have done with this time, money, and blood. However, Saddam was an evil man who needed to be taken out. The intelligent world would have sit on its hands just like it always have. Europe would have ignored the problems they helped create the Middle East and cried to the U.S. to fix them when it got out of control---when these evil men all had nukes and used them against innocents. Just like in WWII where the "intelligent nations" tried to kiss Hitlers ass and not spark a war. For the time being, it is best for you to lower your tone, because you have a lot to learn. Reality proves this every single day. Explain this to me? Im too much of a stupid American to understand. But about who stole what, we can only say one thing: American companies stole many more billions since they entered Iraq in 2003, than all other companies from all other major powers combined during the oil for food scandal. On that, you really have to stop being a jerk I want lots of proof of this. Dont just make something up like that. And you called me a jerk already--but I havent called you an arrogant punk yet.
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