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That's bullshit. You know very well that this President inherited two wars that weren't on the books. He put them on the books and it makes the books look terrible. Conservatives have a convenient way of applying their stupid logic: if you don't see it, it doesn't exist.

Apparently it was so terrible he went and added a third. Without the approval of congress btw.

Like if we just think away the gay, than gays won't really exist. If we think away the debt, it just won't exist either.

That seems to be your response, because your only answer is "tax the rich" who don't have enough money to do what you want. Assuming of course they'd be dumb enough to stay in this country with the punitive tax rates you want.

I blame unpatriotic members of the party-within-a-party of the Republicans for this, since S&P and others around the world have stated that the recent debt-limit deal and it's ridiculous process the last few weeks shook the confidence of the markets.

Who proposed a plan, and actually voted it through the House that did what S&P said was necessary?

It was a deal that Republicans could've agreed to months ago but didn't because they need the economy to be as bad as possible in order to get elected in just over a year.

A bad deal which doesn't do the job is no reason to compromise. They foolishly caved in and agreed to a bad deal, and here is the result.

All that conservatives talk about now is how even liberals don't like Obama. That's ironic. Conservatives seem to like him more now that the country is on it's way back down the shitter, which says something about their values.

I haven't seen too many conservatives say they have any liking for the moron in chief.

The number one reason to write-off anything that the S&P says was made clear on Monday, as the only thing that investors bought was U.S. Treasury Bonds, which means investors think that the U.S. is good for paying back their loans despite the hard times.

That's expecting them to have a higher yield since the interest rate on them should rise.

Once again, the bond market reveals to us that the President is right; radical steps don't need to be taken. Just compromise and intelligence.

It would probably help if you understood the bond market. And if the president ever displays any intelligence, be sure to let us know, we haven't seen much of a display of that from him.

Had the President got the $4 trillion+ deal he wanted that included tax reform in it, and had he got it a couple months ago, the country wouldn't have been downgraded, and this funk would have never happened, but it did, and we all know why it did, thanks to the moronic wing of the Republican party who relished seeing their country practically fall to it's knees right before their unpatriotic eyes.

What 4 trillion+ deal? By all means do give us a link to that plan.

Remember, CBO said they don't score speeches, and that's the only place we've seen any of the economic plans you attribute to your lord and master.

A speech isn't a plan, talking points aren't plans. Plans have details, where are his?

As for patriotic, some are trying, yet you demonize them because you would rather kill the country than admit you're wrong. Because this country is DEAD unless the spending government has gotten addicted to is broken, unless those entitlement programs you love are radically altered or removed outright, defense spending is cut, and the monstrosity that is our tax code is completely throw out and revamped.

Some are trying to do those things, and you call them Tea Party extremists. With luck they and people like them will save this country in spite of people like you.