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**standaman** · 01-08-2011, 02:02 PM

Obama has never been for "Just give me all the money I want", in fact the Gang of 6 plan he backed would have seen $4 trillion or more in savings while the plan they've agreed to is closer to $3 trillion now.

Which he ignored, and in fact Obama asked to increase the debt ceiling with no cuts. Then Obama was so out of touch he was sidelined to be a bench warmer.

The progressive caucus released their plan months ago, and that one remains the best deal around, with trillions being trimmed here and there but with at least equal parts revenue coming in from the closing of tax loopholes for major corporations and the wealthiest Americans. What plan, the only plan that was ever released was one that was voted down unanimously.

The plan that's going to go through at this point basically asks middle class people to pay for everything, which makes hardly any sense whatsoever when there is a whole class of people in America who should be effected by this deal as well but who are not. It basically asks what of the middle class. Please give details.

All you wanted was for tax increases. Let Obama have all the money he wanted to squander with more failed policies.

So why is the middle class taking it up the ass while the wealthiest Americans get off scott-free? Hasn't the middle class suffered enough in recent years with record job losses and wage stagnation and having to bail out the big banks and the auto industry? Again please provide details of how the middle class is taking it up the ass?

Where the fuck is the people's bailout? The top is only doing better today because of what the middle was asked to do 3 years ago, and now it's only fair that the favor is returned, but alas, the apparent "job creators" are exempt from any kind of sacrifice or patriotic duty to their country, and that's wrong. We already had the peoples bailout, with a stimulus that went to state workers and unions, and extended and extended and extended unemployment benefits. You liberals think there is an endless supply of money, just borrow and spend and increase entitlements. Hell, you liberals wanted another stimulus just like the last failed stimulus, repeat the same failures.

01-08-2011, 02:02 PM	#10
standaman Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 870 Senior Member	Obama has never been for "Just give me all the money I want", in fact the Gang of 6 plan he backed would have seen $4 trillion or more in savings while the plan they've agreed to is closer to $3 trillion now. Which he ignored, and in fact Obama asked to increase the debt ceiling with no cuts. Then Obama was so out of touch he was sidelined to be a bench warmer. The progressive caucus released their plan months ago, and that one remains the best deal around, with trillions being trimmed here and there but with at least equal parts revenue coming in from the closing of tax loopholes for major corporations and the wealthiest Americans. What plan, the only plan that was ever released was one that was voted down unanimously. The plan that's going to go through at this point basically asks middle class people to pay for everything, which makes hardly any sense whatsoever when there is a whole class of people in America who should be effected by this deal as well but who are not. It basically asks what of the middle class. Please give details. All you wanted was for tax increases. Let Obama have all the money he wanted to squander with more failed policies. So why is the middle class taking it up the ass while the wealthiest Americans get off scott-free? Hasn't the middle class suffered enough in recent years with record job losses and wage stagnation and having to bail out the big banks and the auto industry? Again please provide details of how the middle class is taking it up the ass? Where the fuck is the people's bailout? The top is only doing better today because of what the middle was asked to do 3 years ago, and now it's only fair that the favor is returned, but alas, the apparent "job creators" are exempt from any kind of sacrifice or patriotic duty to their country, and that's wrong. We already had the peoples bailout, with a stimulus that went to state workers and unions, and extended and extended and extended unemployment benefits. You liberals think there is an endless supply of money, just borrow and spend and increase entitlements. Hell, you liberals wanted another stimulus just like the last failed stimulus, repeat the same failures.
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