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**Mmccqrtb** · 05-20-2011, 07:05 AM

Obama also said that Hamas has to recognize Israel. That is a pretty major big deal. If Hamas recognizes Israel then Israel can find a way to accept the old borders with land swaps, involving gaining land with buildings, for giving up desert lands.

Hamas has declared a truce not to put obstacles in the road towards a palestinian state, Hamas has accepted negotiations ("prepared to give peace with Israel a chance") and Fatah ( the palestinian peace camp under Abbas) to be in charge of them and pledged to honour the outcome of such negotiations, should they ever resume. Hamas has also said to favour a "palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank" which amounts to an implicit recognition of Israel. That should for rational people be enough to start talks. It is your enemies after all with whom you are negotiating peace, therefore it makes no sense to build up new and new preconditions. ( There are two threads under International politics)
Hamas speaks no more for all Palestinians than the Tea party speaks for all Americans. It makes no sense to make it sound as if there was only Hamas at the table.
The israeli governement on the other side also consists of quite a number of hatemongerers, settler activists and radicals, for example organizing public prayers for the death of all Palestinians ( the Schas partys spiritual leader, Rabbi Ovadia Joseph) or demanding the execution of arab members of the Knesset ( FM Lieberman). Or to give another example : The present israeli governement has honoured a Rabbi who has issued an appeal not to employ Arabs, and not to rent to Arabs ( something that should sound familiar to Jews with ancestry in Europe).

Shas spiritual leader: Abbas and Palestinians should perish - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Lands conference awards Safed rabbi who said Jews shouldn't rent to non-Jews - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

05-20-2011, 07:05 AM	#37
Mmccqrtb Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 365 Senior Member	Obama also said that Hamas has to recognize Israel. That is a pretty major big deal. If Hamas recognizes Israel then Israel can find a way to accept the old borders with land swaps, involving gaining land with buildings, for giving up desert lands. Hamas has declared a truce not to put obstacles in the road towards a palestinian state, Hamas has accepted negotiations ("prepared to give peace with Israel a chance") and Fatah ( the palestinian peace camp under Abbas) to be in charge of them and pledged to honour the outcome of such negotiations, should they ever resume. Hamas has also said to favour a "palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank" which amounts to an implicit recognition of Israel. That should for rational people be enough to start talks. It is your enemies after all with whom you are negotiating peace, therefore it makes no sense to build up new and new preconditions. ( There are two threads under International politics) Hamas speaks no more for all Palestinians than the Tea party speaks for all Americans. It makes no sense to make it sound as if there was only Hamas at the table. The israeli governement on the other side also consists of quite a number of hatemongerers, settler activists and radicals, for example organizing public prayers for the death of all Palestinians ( the Schas partys spiritual leader, Rabbi Ovadia Joseph) or demanding the execution of arab members of the Knesset ( FM Lieberman). Or to give another example : The present israeli governement has honoured a Rabbi who has issued an appeal not to employ Arabs, and not to rent to Arabs ( something that should sound familiar to Jews with ancestry in Europe). Shas spiritual leader: Abbas and Palestinians should perish - Haaretz Daily Newspaper \| Israel News Lands conference awards Safed rabbi who said Jews shouldn't rent to non-Jews - Haaretz Daily Newspaper \| Israel News
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