DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate - View Single Post - Bush and Obama administration transferred/released 160+ high-risk detainees

**NudiJuicervich** · 04-26-2011, 05:13 PM

It's not like they hold AQ membership cards. How do you define "member"? Simply hanging out in the same room as one? Cmon O'Sullivan what your proposing is rather ridiculous.

If anything, it's common sense. Do Norteño and Sureño gang members hold membership cards? How about legal organisation members like Alcoholics Anonymous members where the first five of its traditions have some similarities to how AQ operates? Does a spy hold a spy ID?

Twelve Traditions

1. Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon AA unity.
2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority—a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern.
3. The only requirement for AA membership is a desire to stop drinking.
4. Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or AA as a whole.
5. Each group has but one primary purpose—to carry its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.

. . . Twelve-step program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Can one prove someone is a member of AA? Sure. There can be evidence such as admissions of AA membership, direct and testimonial evidence of attending AA meetings, sponsoring other AA members, etc. Can someone prove someone is a member of MS-13? Sure, by similar evidential means such as admissions, tattooing, actions, etc. It's the same with proving someone to be a spy.

It makes no sense whatsoever to not call AQ and its adherents exactly what they are--extremely dangerous criminal conspirators--and deserving of being treated as the type of threat such people pose. It also makes sense to directly treat the movement as such where it's made expressly known to anyone that if you choose any association with it, you'll spend your days behind bars or dead insofar as being handled to eradicate the threat such a person poses. That even goes right after the propaganda and recruitment, etc, because the mere admission of membership itself will be deemed evidence to put you on the hit and removal list from society.

04-26-2011, 05:13 PM	#21
NudiJuicervich Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	It's not like they hold AQ membership cards. How do you define "member"? Simply hanging out in the same room as one? Cmon O'Sullivan what your proposing is rather ridiculous. If anything, it's common sense. Do Norteño and Sureño gang members hold membership cards? How about legal organisation members like Alcoholics Anonymous members where the first five of its traditions have some similarities to how AQ operates? Does a spy hold a spy ID? Twelve Traditions 1. Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon AA unity. 2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority—a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern. 3. The only requirement for AA membership is a desire to stop drinking. 4. Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or AA as a whole. 5. Each group has but one primary purpose—to carry its message to the alcoholic who still suffers. . . . Twelve-step program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Can one prove someone is a member of AA? Sure. There can be evidence such as admissions of AA membership, direct and testimonial evidence of attending AA meetings, sponsoring other AA members, etc. Can someone prove someone is a member of MS-13? Sure, by similar evidential means such as admissions, tattooing, actions, etc. It's the same with proving someone to be a spy. It makes no sense whatsoever to not call AQ and its adherents exactly what they are--extremely dangerous criminal conspirators--and deserving of being treated as the type of threat such people pose. It also makes sense to directly treat the movement as such where it's made expressly known to anyone that if you choose any association with it, you'll spend your days behind bars or dead insofar as being handled to eradicate the threat such a person poses. That even goes right after the propaganda and recruitment, etc, because the mere admission of membership itself will be deemed evidence to put you on the hit and removal list from society.
	Quote