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**Mjypksun** · 04-26-2011, 05:36 PM

To prove any criminal charge, the evidence must be sufficient for a jury or judge as the case to make that conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt. For sample manner of proving that, see my last post above to Danny.

There is no right to be a member of a violent organisation like AQ whatsoever within the right of association, which is intended for peaceful and reasonable conduct. There is no right to be a criminal conspirator in ordinary or serious crime, e.g., a group of burglars or insider traders, or a violent street gang, etc. As for a capital offence, IMO that can be applied in the case of criminal conspiracies sanctioning and conducting premeditated murder(s), of which AQ is most certainly engaged.

But what about an organization that has multiple arms?

An organization like Hamas, for example, that has legitimate political movements as well as its less legitimate movements. Can we kill all Hamas members because some are violent?

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Mjypksun Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 468 Senior Member	To prove any criminal charge, the evidence must be sufficient for a jury or judge as the case to make that conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt. For sample manner of proving that, see my last post above to Danny. There is no right to be a member of a violent organisation like AQ whatsoever within the right of association, which is intended for peaceful and reasonable conduct. There is no right to be a criminal conspirator in ordinary or serious crime, e.g., a group of burglars or insider traders, or a violent street gang, etc. As for a capital offence, IMO that can be applied in the case of criminal conspiracies sanctioning and conducting premeditated murder(s), of which AQ is most certainly engaged. But what about an organization that has multiple arms? An organization like Hamas, for example, that has legitimate political movements as well as its less legitimate movements. Can we kill all Hamas members because some are violent?
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