Yes, it does need to be gutted. What we really need are millions on the streets, raping and pillaging, burning, causing havoc. The National Guard is stretched thin, so we would have to bring those boys back home to maintain some sort of order. The average guy struggling today doesn't care much about deficets. The political crowd who are entertained by politics do though. But they are outnumbered by average folks. If you ask one of the un employed or under employed, what is important, it sure as hell will not be the deficets. No, it will be more self oriented and personal. And if you cut out his food stamps due to offshoring, that will get his attention quickly. So shut down this gov't. And then accept the consequences of a long term shut down. I dare you, I double dog dare ya. I triple dog dare ya. I want it shut down, I really do. We need a fucking catalyst here, and the sooner, the better.