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**VrQsgM7c** · 03-31-2011, 02:09 PM

If he actually wanted to do it, he wouldn't have bent over backwards to ask for permission.

So diplomacy and approval from the UN are "bending over backwards?"

One of the saving graces to Obama is that he at least isn't playing cowboy like Bush did. He's essentially pushing the same foreign policy as Bush, but he's not quite as much of an idiot about it.

"Permission" is an important thing to pursue before getting involved.

Granted, getting involved in the first place is the problem. Both American political parties love to dick around in foreign countries they have no business being in.

And of course, the UN and the Arab League will posture back and forth about involvement since the Arab League has no spine, and the UN is too timid and fractured to be willing to accept the harsh reality that civilians die during war.

But despite all of that, at least aiming for some sort of international consensus shows that Obama understands the basic rules for intervention.

03-31-2011, 02:09 PM	#25
VrQsgM7c Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 511 Senior Member	If he actually wanted to do it, he wouldn't have bent over backwards to ask for permission. So diplomacy and approval from the UN are "bending over backwards?" One of the saving graces to Obama is that he at least isn't playing cowboy like Bush did. He's essentially pushing the same foreign policy as Bush, but he's not quite as much of an idiot about it. "Permission" is an important thing to pursue before getting involved. Granted, getting involved in the first place is the problem. Both American political parties love to dick around in foreign countries they have no business being in. And of course, the UN and the Arab League will posture back and forth about involvement since the Arab League has no spine, and the UN is too timid and fractured to be willing to accept the harsh reality that civilians die during war. But despite all of that, at least aiming for some sort of international consensus shows that Obama understands the basic rules for intervention.
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