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**MrGunjMan_** · 03-23-2011, 05:41 PM

You can't see a scenario where Rummy told someone to tell someone to set up the prison, and get every last piece of info from whoever is in it and they have to sick the dogs on them then so be it?

That's not too far fetched. Certainly not in the same league as this notion that Obama somehow issues orders for soldiers to pose with corpses.

From "W" on down, all possible means of extraordinary interrogation was searched for, and "W" appointed Chu to find laws to support it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Libby, etc. all endorsed it, and shit always flows downhill in the military. Seeing extraordinary interrogation is the same thing as PTST, it renders the senses to become more and more conditioned that the subject isn't human and doesn't deserve being treated as such.

Those were the conditions presented to the military in Abu Ghraid, and they reacted accordingly. Even McCain changed his tune when running for election, to cater to the far-right that enjoyed seeing accused people being treated worse than we treat game animals here.

Completely different ideals are being presented by President Obama than the "W" gang ever presented to the military. It's just a righties wet dream to find anything they can whine about.

03-23-2011, 05:41 PM	#37
MrGunjMan_ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 470 Senior Member	You can't see a scenario where Rummy told someone to tell someone to set up the prison, and get every last piece of info from whoever is in it and they have to sick the dogs on them then so be it? That's not too far fetched. Certainly not in the same league as this notion that Obama somehow issues orders for soldiers to pose with corpses. From "W" on down, all possible means of extraordinary interrogation was searched for, and "W" appointed Chu to find laws to support it. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Libby, etc. all endorsed it, and shit always flows downhill in the military. Seeing extraordinary interrogation is the same thing as PTST, it renders the senses to become more and more conditioned that the subject isn't human and doesn't deserve being treated as such. Those were the conditions presented to the military in Abu Ghraid, and they reacted accordingly. Even McCain changed his tune when running for election, to cater to the far-right that enjoyed seeing accused people being treated worse than we treat game animals here. Completely different ideals are being presented by President Obama than the "W" gang ever presented to the military. It's just a righties wet dream to find anything they can whine about.
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