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**Gozmand** · 11-04-2011, 02:11 AM

It's a valid point when applied to a lot of other situations. For example, the world expected us to help out with the tsunami victims a few years back, and the current tsunami situation in Japan is similar.

Yes totally, but there is a giant difference between a humanitarian intervention and a military intervention. Yesterday I read the US sent some planes with medical apparatus and food goods, correct me if I'm wrong.
For me that's great, I favour US intervention when it comes to actually helping the victims. I solely oppose military intervention

A lot of the most vocal Americans can be characterized that way, but I would say that there is a growing interest in isolationism here right now. We've learned a hard lesson from Iraq and Afghanistan, and so a lot of us are reluctant to support more interventionism.

I know, a great deal of smart Americans are able to differentiate good from bad, and so understand the importance of certain war steps. unfortunately, good smart Americans are a minority.

I can't speak for him, but personally, history suggests that, as China grows more prosperous, they will intervene in more conflicts. They've already done this some in Africa -- in Sudan in particular.

China already plays the economic imperialism game quite well by investing heavily in a lot of power players like the U.S., Australia, Brazil, and various parts of Africa.

This is usually the first step towards more military interventionism, since economic investments abroad can lead to vested interests in conflicts that might affect them.

well, I kind of agree.. But, China has been among the top 4 countries in terms of economy size, for the past several years. And I don't recall any military expansion outside China. Although, sometime last year I read about a possibility for expansion, but it's not set on stone.

However, please read this article about China's military ambitions, and let me know what you think. It talks about a diplomatic strategy.
Chinese navy has no plan for overseas bases
also, click on the NEXT PAGE button under the article for the second page of the article.

And then check this short entry about US bases around the world
Destructing the US’s Destructive Military Empire An Organic Intellectual

I quote from the above link: "According to the 2008 official Pentagon inventory of our military bases around the world, our empire consists of 865 facilities in more than 40 countries and overseas U.S. territories. We deploy over 190,000 troops in 46 countries and territories. In just one such country, Japan, at the end of March 2008, we still had 99,295 people connected to U.S. military forces living and working there — 49,364 members of our armed services, 45,753 dependent family members, and 4,178 civilian employees. Some 13,975 of these were crowded into the small island of Okinawa, the largest concentration of foreign troops anywhere in Japan."

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Gozmand Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 408 Senior Member	It's a valid point when applied to a lot of other situations. For example, the world expected us to help out with the tsunami victims a few years back, and the current tsunami situation in Japan is similar. Yes totally, but there is a giant difference between a humanitarian intervention and a military intervention. Yesterday I read the US sent some planes with medical apparatus and food goods, correct me if I'm wrong. For me that's great, I favour US intervention when it comes to actually helping the victims. I solely oppose military intervention A lot of the most vocal Americans can be characterized that way, but I would say that there is a growing interest in isolationism here right now. We've learned a hard lesson from Iraq and Afghanistan, and so a lot of us are reluctant to support more interventionism. I know, a great deal of smart Americans are able to differentiate good from bad, and so understand the importance of certain war steps. unfortunately, good smart Americans are a minority. I can't speak for him, but personally, history suggests that, as China grows more prosperous, they will intervene in more conflicts. They've already done this some in Africa -- in Sudan in particular. China already plays the economic imperialism game quite well by investing heavily in a lot of power players like the U.S., Australia, Brazil, and various parts of Africa. This is usually the first step towards more military interventionism, since economic investments abroad can lead to vested interests in conflicts that might affect them. well, I kind of agree.. But, China has been among the top 4 countries in terms of economy size, for the past several years. And I don't recall any military expansion outside China. Although, sometime last year I read about a possibility for expansion, but it's not set on stone. However, please read this article about China's military ambitions, and let me know what you think. It talks about a diplomatic strategy. Chinese navy has no plan for overseas bases also, click on the NEXT PAGE button under the article for the second page of the article. And then check this short entry about US bases around the world Destructing the US’s Destructive Military Empire An Organic Intellectual I quote from the above link: "According to the 2008 official Pentagon inventory of our military bases around the world, our empire consists of 865 facilities in more than 40 countries and overseas U.S. territories. We deploy over 190,000 troops in 46 countries and territories. In just one such country, Japan, at the end of March 2008, we still had 99,295 people connected to U.S. military forces living and working there — 49,364 members of our armed services, 45,753 dependent family members, and 4,178 civilian employees. Some 13,975 of these were crowded into the small island of Okinawa, the largest concentration of foreign troops anywhere in Japan."
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