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**GogaMegaPis** · 05-02-2011, 04:28 PM

Blue you just live in the past and all you care about is a frigen factory job, someone working in an assembly line. We are done with that, weather you like it or not other countries factories are better, faster and cheaper.

And you blame the Pub's for everything, let me ask you, you want jobs then bring our oil production back home. How about that. I'm sick of liberals whining about factory jobs but it's OK to outsource 500 billion a yr to purchase oil form countries that really don't like us. And just think of the jobs that are lost to overseas countries. And you want to bitch about factory jobs. No you really don't care about jobs because if you did you would want to bring our oil production back home. Further you would want to seal our border and kick out 20 million illegals that are taking good American Jobs. Our government is outsourcing 20 million illegals jobs right here at home and you could care less, same as shipping 500 billion a yr to foreign countries and their jobs.

No, you don't give a shit about jobs, just the job you want.

This is nothing more than a line from Kipling, where the monkeys said, "we all SAY so, so it must be true!" And that is all that this amounts to, with the living in the past, the end of industry in this Nation. You CHUMPS bought into it, and swallowed it hook line and sinker. You are nothing more than just great suckers for propaganda, your weakness, not mine.

I have never been against our own oil production, and apparently you have not read much of what I rant about. I just admit that we don't have the reserves to be completely independent when it comes to oil. We have coal, and we have natural gas. More than enough to last for many decades.

Industy is of no importance?

Please tell China that. Please tell that to the industry sent to Mexico, and other places where cheap labor abounds. Not like those places did not exist prior to the gov't allowing our business to go there! That is the main difference here, where we at one time LOOKED OUT FOR WORKING AMERICANS, that model was blown up, and buried. Go piss on someone's else's leg, as I am too damn old to buy into the propaganda you think came from the mouth of God himself. Got news for ya. It came not from God, but from greedy manufacturers, who did back flips to convince politicians, lubricated with good old fashioned MONEY.

I sell a product in my retirement. To keep from being bored crazy. I use parts that are manufactured here in the States. I have been bombarded with Chinese companies trying to sell me a primary part that I need, at 1/3 the price that I am currently paying Americans to make. If I went with them, my profits would increase quite a bit. And if I were a treasonous bastard businessman, I would have jumped on that wagon a long time ago. I refuse to do it. Why the hell would I want to send the Chinese my money? How does that help out Americans, who need a job? It doesn't. If this American factory went under, many folks would lose their jobs. It is a company over a hundred years old, that has been in business during that entire time. Why would I want to destroy it, so I could have a fatter bottom line? When my bottom line is fine as it is. Granted, I could be a greedy little fucker and do what everyone else is doing, but I got some scruples. And unlike those other jackwags, I actually care about America and its People. And sir, that is the only fucking difference between me and THEM. It's not like I am not in business, and have never been in business. I did the same thing before I sold and retired from my old business. I could have bought South American plywood at half the price of US made plywood. I did not do it then, and I will NOT do it now.

This offshoring was nothing more than a business decision, to increase profits for the corporation and stockholders. Which could have been done in the 50's and 60's if ALLOWED to do so by gov't policy. What changed was the policy, brought about by money and lobbiests of corporations. If you can't understand that, you will NEVER understand what has actually gone on, and still goes on.

Unlike some here, I have owned my own manufacturing biz. I have been in the trenches. I know how this shit works. And get this, you don't have to have some so called expert to figure it all out. Take off the political shades, and just look honestly with some clarity. If you rely upon the experts, you will be lied to, as even they have agendas and political beliefs that supercede everything else.

The great changes we have seen in this Nation is driven by one thing. GREED. Nothing more or less. When greed drives policy, you can bet your life that the average folks will be the only ones suffering. When greed is allowed to create policy, nothing good will come from it for average folks. This is something that the folks in the 30's understood. And they acted upon it, and what they gave this Nation served all, from top to bottom. Yet, we once again have forgotten what greed yields, when not checked or controlled. The earliest attempts to do it was relegated to religion. Until you see greed for the power that it weilds, you will forever be unable to understand basic things that affect average People. Greed and the evil love of money is destructive to a society. And I observe that destruction each day, as I can recall different times, when greed took a back seat to the best interest of ALL PEOPLE.

05-02-2011, 04:28 PM	#36
GogaMegaPis Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 462 Senior Member	Blue you just live in the past and all you care about is a frigen factory job, someone working in an assembly line. We are done with that, weather you like it or not other countries factories are better, faster and cheaper. And you blame the Pub's for everything, let me ask you, you want jobs then bring our oil production back home. How about that. I'm sick of liberals whining about factory jobs but it's OK to outsource 500 billion a yr to purchase oil form countries that really don't like us. And just think of the jobs that are lost to overseas countries. And you want to bitch about factory jobs. No you really don't care about jobs because if you did you would want to bring our oil production back home. Further you would want to seal our border and kick out 20 million illegals that are taking good American Jobs. Our government is outsourcing 20 million illegals jobs right here at home and you could care less, same as shipping 500 billion a yr to foreign countries and their jobs. No, you don't give a shit about jobs, just the job you want. This is nothing more than a line from Kipling, where the monkeys said, "we all SAY so, so it must be true!" And that is all that this amounts to, with the living in the past, the end of industry in this Nation. You CHUMPS bought into it, and swallowed it hook line and sinker. You are nothing more than just great suckers for propaganda, your weakness, not mine. I have never been against our own oil production, and apparently you have not read much of what I rant about. I just admit that we don't have the reserves to be completely independent when it comes to oil. We have coal, and we have natural gas. More than enough to last for many decades. Industy is of no importance? Please tell China that. Please tell that to the industry sent to Mexico, and other places where cheap labor abounds. Not like those places did not exist prior to the gov't allowing our business to go there! That is the main difference here, where we at one time LOOKED OUT FOR WORKING AMERICANS, that model was blown up, and buried. Go piss on someone's else's leg, as I am too damn old to buy into the propaganda you think came from the mouth of God himself. Got news for ya. It came not from God, but from greedy manufacturers, who did back flips to convince politicians, lubricated with good old fashioned MONEY. I sell a product in my retirement. To keep from being bored crazy. I use parts that are manufactured here in the States. I have been bombarded with Chinese companies trying to sell me a primary part that I need, at 1/3 the price that I am currently paying Americans to make. If I went with them, my profits would increase quite a bit. And if I were a treasonous bastard businessman, I would have jumped on that wagon a long time ago. I refuse to do it. Why the hell would I want to send the Chinese my money? How does that help out Americans, who need a job? It doesn't. If this American factory went under, many folks would lose their jobs. It is a company over a hundred years old, that has been in business during that entire time. Why would I want to destroy it, so I could have a fatter bottom line? When my bottom line is fine as it is. Granted, I could be a greedy little fucker and do what everyone else is doing, but I got some scruples. And unlike those other jackwags, I actually care about America and its People. And sir, that is the only fucking difference between me and THEM. It's not like I am not in business, and have never been in business. I did the same thing before I sold and retired from my old business. I could have bought South American plywood at half the price of US made plywood. I did not do it then, and I will NOT do it now. This offshoring was nothing more than a business decision, to increase profits for the corporation and stockholders. Which could have been done in the 50's and 60's if ALLOWED to do so by gov't policy. What changed was the policy, brought about by money and lobbiests of corporations. If you can't understand that, you will NEVER understand what has actually gone on, and still goes on. Unlike some here, I have owned my own manufacturing biz. I have been in the trenches. I know how this shit works. And get this, you don't have to have some so called expert to figure it all out. Take off the political shades, and just look honestly with some clarity. If you rely upon the experts, you will be lied to, as even they have agendas and political beliefs that supercede everything else. The great changes we have seen in this Nation is driven by one thing. GREED. Nothing more or less. When greed drives policy, you can bet your life that the average folks will be the only ones suffering. When greed is allowed to create policy, nothing good will come from it for average folks. This is something that the folks in the 30's understood. And they acted upon it, and what they gave this Nation served all, from top to bottom. Yet, we once again have forgotten what greed yields, when not checked or controlled. The earliest attempts to do it was relegated to religion. Until you see greed for the power that it weilds, you will forever be unable to understand basic things that affect average People. Greed and the evil love of money is destructive to a society. And I observe that destruction each day, as I can recall different times, when greed took a back seat to the best interest of ALL PEOPLE.
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