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**Rasklad** · 12-20-2010, 06:21 PM

What we need is national ID and measures to prevent illegals form voting.
We have 1000's here running around with PA State license that they obtained somehow and they are not afraid to flaunt it.

Illegals voting actually has been very miniscule compared to the hype...very few get through the cracks.

It's even self-executing for the most part not only due to checks but also because it's a federal felony for a non-USC to vote in a federal election and any hopes that one might have for legalising their status gets shit down the toilet by voting. They know that and it's made known to them even in their own community because the evidence of the crime is right in the books for verification and speaks for itself, something they don't want to have to face. This is even true for legal immigrants...they are not permitted to vote in federal elections and they will get deported if caught doing so, e.g.,

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/ny.../17voting.html

As for car registration 'games' concerning vehicles, illegals certainly do it, but it's also really just an American problem generally. Many people engage in 'rate evasion/avoidance' concerning car insurance by registering their vehicles with relatives and friends or registering their vehicle to their parents' homes or holiday homes, etc, in cheaper insurance areas. NY has a high insurance rate and that creates an incentive for people to 'forum shop' for registering their vehicles. Those in NY with connections in PA often choose to register their vehicles in PA. If their insurance companies catch onto that, they can refuse to cover the vehicle for 'rate evasion' fraud if it's blatantly bogus but it's also pretty easy to create a legal situation of 'rate avoidance' by using relatives and keeping connections in the state of registry such as owning properties, making their stay in NY be deemed temporary, etc. Car registration, however, does not allow voting registration, at least in my area.

PA does not allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licences and they require proof of citizenship or legal residency to obtain one. If a person is in PA on a temporary visa, then the validity of the licence is limited to the period of visa validity only.

12-20-2010, 06:21 PM	#34
Rasklad Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 390 Senior Member	What we need is national ID and measures to prevent illegals form voting. We have 1000's here running around with PA State license that they obtained somehow and they are not afraid to flaunt it. Illegals voting actually has been very miniscule compared to the hype...very few get through the cracks. It's even self-executing for the most part not only due to checks but also because it's a federal felony for a non-USC to vote in a federal election and any hopes that one might have for legalising their status gets shit down the toilet by voting. They know that and it's made known to them even in their own community because the evidence of the crime is right in the books for verification and speaks for itself, something they don't want to have to face. This is even true for legal immigrants...they are not permitted to vote in federal elections and they will get deported if caught doing so, e.g., http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/17/ny.../17voting.html As for car registration 'games' concerning vehicles, illegals certainly do it, but it's also really just an American problem generally. Many people engage in 'rate evasion/avoidance' concerning car insurance by registering their vehicles with relatives and friends or registering their vehicle to their parents' homes or holiday homes, etc, in cheaper insurance areas. NY has a high insurance rate and that creates an incentive for people to 'forum shop' for registering their vehicles. Those in NY with connections in PA often choose to register their vehicles in PA. If their insurance companies catch onto that, they can refuse to cover the vehicle for 'rate evasion' fraud if it's blatantly bogus but it's also pretty easy to create a legal situation of 'rate avoidance' by using relatives and keeping connections in the state of registry such as owning properties, making their stay in NY be deemed temporary, etc. Car registration, however, does not allow voting registration, at least in my area. PA does not allow illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licences and they require proof of citizenship or legal residency to obtain one. If a person is in PA on a temporary visa, then the validity of the licence is limited to the period of visa validity only.
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