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**DextExexy** · 08-17-2012, 01:01 AM

I would disagree with the statement that doctors destroy health.

Health is the sole responsibility of the individual. Doctors are trained to use drugs and surgery. It is up to the individual to create and maintain health for themselves and judiciously use the services of the doctors, when needed, such is the case when you have broken bones sticking out of your body from a car crash. Or when a cop beats your brains out and they need to be put back in.

But only idiots go to doctors to get healthy. Health comes from good eating, exercise, and a peaceful mind. Stress, drugs, bad food, and sitting on the couch lead to bad health. And doctors don't make anyone do those things.

Beautiful summation Salty, spot on.

As a physician, I am extremely disappointed with my colleagues. While their ignorance of nutrition and holistic health might be forgivable, their haughty arrogance in rejecting new knowledge about said subjects is repugnant. My colleagues with their multiyear educations and numerous degrees are so blind in fundamental ways that it is appalling. Sadly, the educated man is apt to reject new knowledge off hand lest it interfere with his magical world view, born entirely out of the university-medical school-residency orthodoxy. Why must men make the same mistakes over and over again? Why cannot men resist the pride before the fall? I see doctors ignorant of nutrition, of whole foods, of spirituality, of the environmental dangers all around us. When I brought up the spectre of atmospheric depleted uranium at a Cancer Conference, the chief of staff laughed in my face. I don't give him the time of day anymore and he knows it. He also knows that I can wipe the flaw with him intellectually but I learned a thing or two about restraint and grace as a young man. I have given up on my colleagues. I keep the conversations short and strictly on work at the hospital. My reports are succinct, factual, cogent and grammatically perfect. But I am deeply saddened by the intellectually petrified state of affairs in modern medicine. It has peaked at some sterile state of high decadence. The coming fall is inevitable. There are no more healers, no more men of medicine who hunger for cures, for breakthroughs, and solutions found though humble and earnest work. Fleming discovered Penicillin on discarded moldly bread while working in a literal closet. He saved untold millions of lives. Today it's all about grants, and fancy presentations, and overpriced conferences and lectures. Curiousity is dead. Medicine is a wasteland of close-minded profiteers and opportunists.

I sincerely hold far more hope for the members of this forum. Because of your fertile open minds and willingness to explore and understand new subjects, you collectively will fare far better, physically and spiritually, than my genetically-modified food-consuming pill-popping multi-degreed "educated" colleagues. Never have men been simultaneously so educated and simultaneously so ignorant and bereft of wisdom and humility.

08-17-2012, 01:01 AM	#5
DextExexy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 484 Senior Member	I would disagree with the statement that doctors destroy health. Health is the sole responsibility of the individual. Doctors are trained to use drugs and surgery. It is up to the individual to create and maintain health for themselves and judiciously use the services of the doctors, when needed, such is the case when you have broken bones sticking out of your body from a car crash. Or when a cop beats your brains out and they need to be put back in. But only idiots go to doctors to get healthy. Health comes from good eating, exercise, and a peaceful mind. Stress, drugs, bad food, and sitting on the couch lead to bad health. And doctors don't make anyone do those things. Beautiful summation Salty, spot on. As a physician, I am extremely disappointed with my colleagues. While their ignorance of nutrition and holistic health might be forgivable, their haughty arrogance in rejecting new knowledge about said subjects is repugnant. My colleagues with their multiyear educations and numerous degrees are so blind in fundamental ways that it is appalling. Sadly, the educated man is apt to reject new knowledge off hand lest it interfere with his magical world view, born entirely out of the university-medical school-residency orthodoxy. Why must men make the same mistakes over and over again? Why cannot men resist the pride before the fall? I see doctors ignorant of nutrition, of whole foods, of spirituality, of the environmental dangers all around us. When I brought up the spectre of atmospheric depleted uranium at a Cancer Conference, the chief of staff laughed in my face. I don't give him the time of day anymore and he knows it. He also knows that I can wipe the flaw with him intellectually but I learned a thing or two about restraint and grace as a young man. I have given up on my colleagues. I keep the conversations short and strictly on work at the hospital. My reports are succinct, factual, cogent and grammatically perfect. But I am deeply saddened by the intellectually petrified state of affairs in modern medicine. It has peaked at some sterile state of high decadence. The coming fall is inevitable. There are no more healers, no more men of medicine who hunger for cures, for breakthroughs, and solutions found though humble and earnest work. Fleming discovered Penicillin on discarded moldly bread while working in a literal closet. He saved untold millions of lives. Today it's all about grants, and fancy presentations, and overpriced conferences and lectures. Curiousity is dead. Medicine is a wasteland of close-minded profiteers and opportunists. I sincerely hold far more hope for the members of this forum. Because of your fertile open minds and willingness to explore and understand new subjects, you collectively will fare far better, physically and spiritually, than my genetically-modified food-consuming pill-popping multi-degreed "educated" colleagues. Never have men been simultaneously so educated and simultaneously so ignorant and bereft of wisdom and humility.
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