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Old 08-06-2012, 04:15 PM   #36
Cajlwdvx

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The FRNs that are deemed money in the USA are legal tender--meaning that the government will take them for payment of taxes regardless of whether they have any value or not.

The point I raised in the OP was not about how one pays 'income tax' but rather whether anyone owes the government any income tax. The video in the OP takes the position that ordinary working people have been suckered into volunteering to pay taxes they do not legally owe because there is no law that says they do. Or at least no one can find such a law. It has been legally determined that the 16th Amendment gave the government no new powers to tax the people. The Constitution says that taxes must be apportioned among the states. The way the income tax is applied does not meet that apportionment criteria. Also, the Federal government does not have jurisdiction over the people in the several states, but only over the 'residents' of the District of Columbia, and the Territories owned by the USA, i. e. Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, Northern Marianna Islands and Pacific Trust Territories, as well as military bases throughout the world. What is in question here is the legality of taxing all American citizens. The conclusion in the OP video is that we do not owe taxes, but we volunteer to pay them for fear of the consequences of not doing so.

That to me, sounds like extortion. The IRS creates fear, then cashes in on the ignorance of the people. Few people seem to have the courage to question the legality of this extortion, and so it continues unabated, and the government's appetite for this kind of shakedown grows into other aspects of our lives. Those who do have the courage to question the legality of this extortion are effectively abandoned by those who lack such courage, and the government is allowed to punish those people for breaking laws which do not exist.

Glass got it right. If about 10% of the population, or roughly 30 million people adopted the attitude that income tax is illegal, then the tipping point would be reached, and the income tax would disappear. If 10% of the population believe something is true, the rest will follow. The government knows this, and so takes draconian measures against any who might make up such a body of believers to convince the rest that they are wrong.

We have here an opportunity to exercise what many on this forum believe they already do, that is, thinking for ones self. I don't see many people taking that opportunity. It is possible to educate one's self, and to overcome fear and ignorance, but it requires a bit of courage. My observation that such courage is one of the rarest human attributes is once again confirmed. Most of us would rather let someone else lead the charge, and join only if it looks like it will be successful, when we could join and make it successful. This is the crux of the human dilemma. Do I do what's right, or do I do what everybody else does?

Hatha
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