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**Maribellin** · 03-19-2012, 05:08 PM

Social Security is the crux of it all.
The reason I say this is because Social Security defines "state" and "united states" much the same way as Palani is taling about.
All federal liability of taxes stems from Social Security.
The SS5 form denotes "US citizenship" that you sign under penalty of perjury of being. Same way with the W4 form.
Every time you sign a W4 you are signing under penalty of perjury to being a "US citizen" subjecting yourself to the jurisdicition thereof.
Without a ssn you cannot obtain a drivers license. You cannot apply for unemployment without first a ssn.
Everytime you ask the government to do something, or permission to do something, they need a ssn from you along with your consent signiture.

(e) State, United States, and citizen
For purposes of this chapter—
(1) State
The term “State” includes the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa.
(2) United States
The term “United States” when used in a geographical sense includes the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa.

Since when have any of these territories, including DC, ever been a state like you thought a state is?

03-19-2012, 05:08 PM	#12
Maribellin Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	Social Security is the crux of it all. The reason I say this is because Social Security defines "state" and "united states" much the same way as Palani is taling about. All federal liability of taxes stems from Social Security. The SS5 form denotes "US citizenship" that you sign under penalty of perjury of being. Same way with the W4 form. Every time you sign a W4 you are signing under penalty of perjury to being a "US citizen" subjecting yourself to the jurisdicition thereof. Without a ssn you cannot obtain a drivers license. You cannot apply for unemployment without first a ssn. Everytime you ask the government to do something, or permission to do something, they need a ssn from you along with your consent signiture. (e) State, United States, and citizen For purposes of this chapter— (1) State The term “State” includes the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa. (2) United States The term “United States” when used in a geographical sense includes the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, and American Samoa. Since when have any of these territories, including DC, ever been a state like you thought a state is?
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