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**wrbwrbwrb** · 03-19-2012, 06:54 PM

Now, please explain how we grant consent to their government to do as it wishes with us? What happens in a court that satisfies their need for your consent? How does one grant them jurisdiction over ones self? That is not apparent to me. Can I just say that I do not consent to their jurisdiction, and claim that I am not a citizen of their 'state'? For an anarchist, this is where the rubber meets the road. Do tell all the ways we grant consent, so we can avoid doing so. Without the risk of going to jail.

First, if you go to jail it is either because of something you did or because others thought you deserving of it. You are responsible for what YOU do. You cannot be responsible for the errors of others. Since there is no way to gauge what others are going to do then rationally there is nothing you can do to forestall these "errors".

Some good ideas in posts following yours. But when all else fails the judge can always tell the bailiff to empty your pockets and if they find a single FRN (coins probably do not count) then jurisdiction attaches by the LAWFORM you have chosen. Another way is use of a ZIP code. I know of one fellow who had a search warrant executed on his home. What they were looking for was evidence that he used the ZIP code in his correspondence.

There are so many ways to establish jurisdiction (in the mind of the black robed actor) that it might be a foregone conclusion that you are always going to be found in a federal jurisdiction. I don't mind this so much now-a-days since I found out about what Harry S. Truman did on June 25, 1948. My date of nativity was after this date. By treaty with the French us inhabitants are guaranteed certain things 'IN THE MEAN TIME'. This would be the time between the signing of the treaty of cession of Louisiana and the time we inhabitants are admitted according to the principles of the federal constitution. This particular inhabitant has never had an opportunity to participate in a state established according to the principles of the federal constitution so 'IN THE MEAN TIME' is NOW. Now means I am in a federal zone no matter what I do.

Granted this reasoning applies to those born in formerly French territory but I believe a case can be made that it applies to ALL inhabitants as well under equal protection principles.

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wrbwrbwrb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 355 Senior Member	Now, please explain how we grant consent to their government to do as it wishes with us? What happens in a court that satisfies their need for your consent? How does one grant them jurisdiction over ones self? That is not apparent to me. Can I just say that I do not consent to their jurisdiction, and claim that I am not a citizen of their 'state'? For an anarchist, this is where the rubber meets the road. Do tell all the ways we grant consent, so we can avoid doing so. Without the risk of going to jail. First, if you go to jail it is either because of something you did or because others thought you deserving of it. You are responsible for what YOU do. You cannot be responsible for the errors of others. Since there is no way to gauge what others are going to do then rationally there is nothing you can do to forestall these "errors". Some good ideas in posts following yours. But when all else fails the judge can always tell the bailiff to empty your pockets and if they find a single FRN (coins probably do not count) then jurisdiction attaches by the LAWFORM you have chosen. Another way is use of a ZIP code. I know of one fellow who had a search warrant executed on his home. What they were looking for was evidence that he used the ZIP code in his correspondence. There are so many ways to establish jurisdiction (in the mind of the black robed actor) that it might be a foregone conclusion that you are always going to be found in a federal jurisdiction. I don't mind this so much now-a-days since I found out about what Harry S. Truman did on June 25, 1948. My date of nativity was after this date. By treaty with the French us inhabitants are guaranteed certain things 'IN THE MEAN TIME'. This would be the time between the signing of the treaty of cession of Louisiana and the time we inhabitants are admitted according to the principles of the federal constitution. This particular inhabitant has never had an opportunity to participate in a state established according to the principles of the federal constitution so 'IN THE MEAN TIME' is NOW. Now means I am in a federal zone no matter what I do. Granted this reasoning applies to those born in formerly French territory but I believe a case can be made that it applies to ALL inhabitants as well under equal protection principles.
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