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**Adiamant** · 12-27-2011, 02:02 PM

Palani the problem is finding corn that isn't GMO anymore or any other grain that is affordable.

True. The organic guys get around $15 a bushel. I asked one farmer who was buying it and he said Amish from Pennsylvania.

Another local fellow is getting out of the hog business. The last I heard he had around 10,000 hogs on feed. He owned the hogs and would contract with other farmers to grow them. The grower would get $4 up front and $4 when sold and all the feed would be provided. If he raised 1,000 hogs he would make $8,000. In the meantime the owner of the hogs (the one providing all the feed, etc) required $10 profit per hog or else he would not be in business. With $7 corn and $60/cwt hog prices there is no margin to pay these costs so he is looking to sell out. It takes 12 bushel of corn to finish a hog along with salt, mineral, protein. Margins are not favorable to making money.

Also heard of another custom owner like this. He carries a debt load of $30 million but then he raises a lot of pigs.

12-27-2011, 02:02 PM	#14
Adiamant Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 479 Senior Member	Palani the problem is finding corn that isn't GMO anymore or any other grain that is affordable. True. The organic guys get around $15 a bushel. I asked one farmer who was buying it and he said Amish from Pennsylvania. Another local fellow is getting out of the hog business. The last I heard he had around 10,000 hogs on feed. He owned the hogs and would contract with other farmers to grow them. The grower would get $4 up front and $4 when sold and all the feed would be provided. If he raised 1,000 hogs he would make $8,000. In the meantime the owner of the hogs (the one providing all the feed, etc) required $10 profit per hog or else he would not be in business. With $7 corn and $60/cwt hog prices there is no margin to pay these costs so he is looking to sell out. It takes 12 bushel of corn to finish a hog along with salt, mineral, protein. Margins are not favorable to making money. Also heard of another custom owner like this. He carries a debt load of $30 million but then he raises a lot of pigs.
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