that was also where I was for "ISO-9001" training. they didn't want to hear that the Vector Network Analyzers they were so in love with was built by engineers at Wiltron & HP in the 1980's who were guided by - physics & common sense - no ISO nothing. in case you can't tell, i think ISO is 99% bullshit. my guess is, most of the ISO employees are Jewish - i.e. it's a Jobs for Jews program.