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**CesseOveldset** · 06-07-2011, 06:47 PM

When our ancient brethren, the holy Crusaders, passed through Byzantium on their way to the tomb of the Saviour, the double-headed eagle which they saw embroidered in gold on heavy banners of silk, borne aloft by the Seljuk Turks, had been four thousand years on its way. To these same Crusaders this emblem was an honoured one, and though the enemy displayed it, yet they would fight to death for its possession and in triumph bear it, dripping with blood, to their encampments on the Levantine shore. It was from this Eastern Empire that the knights took this banner to adorn the courts of Charlemagne, and as a sacred relic hung it in the great cathedrals, whose architects and masons had so often been honoured by this Emperor of the West.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but the use of a double headed eagle in these circumstances specifically references the Roman Empire and had nothing to do with the Turkish scum. Even Iran uses the eagle in their logo, a leftover from when they themselves were ruled by Romans.

The Seljuk Turks showed up in 1058 AD or so, hundreds of years after its use in Constantinople and other places.

I would say that use of the dh eagle by Mason-morons is much more likely to be a case of usurping symbols from somewhere else, just as the New Agers and Wiccans try to talk about "Druids" when in fact there is no way possible that the Druid's oral history survived to be written down.

06-07-2011, 06:47 PM	#10
CesseOveldset Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 550 Senior Member	When our ancient brethren, the holy Crusaders, passed through Byzantium on their way to the tomb of the Saviour, the double-headed eagle which they saw embroidered in gold on heavy banners of silk, borne aloft by the Seljuk Turks, had been four thousand years on its way. To these same Crusaders this emblem was an honoured one, and though the enemy displayed it, yet they would fight to death for its possession and in triumph bear it, dripping with blood, to their encampments on the Levantine shore. It was from this Eastern Empire that the knights took this banner to adorn the courts of Charlemagne, and as a sacred relic hung it in the great cathedrals, whose architects and masons had so often been honoured by this Emperor of the West. [/quote] Correct me if I am wrong, but the use of a double headed eagle in these circumstances specifically references the Roman Empire and had nothing to do with the Turkish scum. Even Iran uses the eagle in their logo, a leftover from when they themselves were ruled by Romans. The Seljuk Turks showed up in 1058 AD or so, hundreds of years after its use in Constantinople and other places. I would say that use of the dh eagle by Mason-morons is much more likely to be a case of usurping symbols from somewhere else, just as the New Agers and Wiccans try to talk about "Druids" when in fact there is no way possible that the Druid's oral history survived to be written down.
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