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**Fluivelip** · 07-16-2006, 10:33 PM

Seems that you may have been thinking just a bit too much there, Rosie...

I'm reminded of a long-ago late-night pizza-and-beer session with a handful of other undergrads discussing the concept of "nothingness"-- the quality of nonexsistence.

I contended that the word was a lie and a trap, because as soon as you heard/read the word, you imagined it, and at that point, it "existed" [for you anyway]... and it was no longer "nothingness", but it existed as whatever you imagined it to be.

While I've forgotten the kind of pizza and the brand of the beer, that late-night deep dip into the pool that can generally be described as "meaningless hair-splitting enigma analysis by youngsters" stuck with me for all these years.

Another murky "point" from that session: When you "see" something, are you connected with that object in a meaningful, tangible way? ...even though your eyes are merely proocessing the light reflected from that object. No light, no processing... but does the object cease to exist? Did it exist before the light? How do you know? Now, consider live TV... movies...

Send somebody out for a 36-pack of beer and a couple of pepperoni pizzas... this is gonna take a while...

07-16-2006, 10:33 PM	#4
Fluivelip Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 549 Senior Member	Seems that you may have been thinking just a bit too much there, Rosie... I'm reminded of a long-ago late-night pizza-and-beer session with a handful of other undergrads discussing the concept of "nothingness"-- the quality of nonexsistence. I contended that the word was a lie and a trap, because as soon as you heard/read the word, you imagined it, and at that point, it "existed" [for you anyway]... and it was no longer "nothingness", but it existed as whatever you imagined it to be. While I've forgotten the kind of pizza and the brand of the beer, that late-night deep dip into the pool that can generally be described as "meaningless hair-splitting enigma analysis by youngsters" stuck with me for all these years. Another murky "point" from that session: When you "see" something, are you connected with that object in a meaningful, tangible way? ...even though your eyes are merely proocessing *the light* reflected from that object. No light, no processing... but does the object cease to exist? Did it exist before the light? How do you know? Now, consider live TV... movies... Send somebody out for a 36-pack of beer and a couple of pepperoni pizzas... this is gonna take a while...
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