the same well funded Lotus, with a number of respected F1 engineers such as Gascoyne, 2 race winning drivers and a bunch of Red Bull/Renault bits on? Don't forget Hispania also have the back end of the Williams strapped to their dog of a chassis. Virgin genuinely are still going it alone, and are comfortabley ahead of Hispania on pace and for all of Lotus's improvements, they are still generally a chunk of time away from the back of the established teams. The fact remains that the CFD method has resulted in a car that is good enough to take its place in the F1 grid, qualifies within the 107% and in only its second season, on what is probably the lowest budget in F1. The experiment was a success in my eyes, and is just the tip of the iceberg, the sheer amount of learning they have to do with their system and design process is immense and they are obviously not far from the right track. I think its a real pity its not been given another couple of years to see the benefits start to come through.