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**zlopikanikanza** · 06-06-2011, 12:05 AM

We've obviously been watching different races. The fact that Lotus is not doing well compared to the established teams is beside the point. As I wrote, they're suddenly several seconds a lap faster than Virgin and they were quite equal last year. One is using a wind tunnel and the other one isn't. The gap between Hispania and Virgin has also shrunk despite Hispania's problems over the winter time. Virgin had more time to develop their car for this year than Hispania but it didn't help them at all. CFD is not ready yet.

My point is still valid, I know Lotus are quicker, but they probably have something in the region of twice the budget and more experienced technical and driving teams. Yet despite this the only progress they are making is to still be behind the rest of the field albeit closer. That shows that even with the techs, the Renault bits, the wind tunnel, the money and the drivers F1 is incredibly difficult. Virgin with their CFD approach have been competitive with the rest of the new teams.

CFD might not be ready yet to make a winning car, but they have proved without a shadow of doubt that it is good enough to be in F1, and they are at the bottom of a massive, steep improvement curve, not near the top of a much shallower one. It would have taken time, and most likely a bunch of money, but the CFD approach would only have improved from where the are now, and where they are now is a pretty decent start

06-06-2011, 12:05 AM	#17
zlopikanikanza Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 721 Senior Member	We've obviously been watching different races. The fact that Lotus is not doing well compared to the established teams is beside the point. As I wrote, they're suddenly several seconds a lap faster than Virgin and they were quite equal last year. One is using a wind tunnel and the other one isn't. The gap between Hispania and Virgin has also shrunk despite Hispania's problems over the winter time. Virgin had more time to develop their car for this year than Hispania but it didn't help them at all. CFD is not ready yet. My point is still valid, I know Lotus are quicker, but they probably have something in the region of twice the budget and more experienced technical and driving teams. Yet despite this the only progress they are making is to still be behind the rest of the field albeit closer. That shows that even with the techs, the Renault bits, the wind tunnel, the money and the drivers F1 is incredibly difficult. Virgin with their CFD approach have been competitive with the rest of the new teams. CFD might not be ready yet to make a winning car, but they have proved without a shadow of doubt that it is good enough to be in F1, and they are at the bottom of a massive, steep improvement curve, not near the top of a much shallower one. It would have taken time, and most likely a bunch of money, but the CFD approach would only have improved from where the are now, and where they are now is a pretty decent start
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