My point is that while Vettel is a very fast driver, he's not very good at overtaking, and somebody else in the same car probably would have done a better job. No need to get your panties in a bunch. Half of the forum threads are based on hypothetical questions, especially during the off season. If you don't wanna discuss on this thread, you have plenty of other threads on this forum to "waste" your time with. If the mods think this thread is stupid, they may very well delete it.