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**Fainnamoony** · 11-13-2009, 05:16 PM

Renault's numbers were 15 & 16.

Close enough.

27 is more a Williams number though, it was them who brought it to the fore and their 1980 championship victory is the reason why Gilles Villenueve had the 27 on his car.

Before that, the number 27 had no relevance to Ferrari.

Ask most Formula 1 fans which numbers belong to Ferrari and they'll say 27 and 28. I know Alan Jones won more races with that number than any other driver but it doesn't really matter. Gilles started the afinity for it and Alesi cemented the bond. For me, 27 belongs on a scarlet Ferrari and no other car.

7 & 8 were the numbers of the early Ron Dennis era, so do have a Mclaren link.

I agree there's a link there but they don't seem as linked to McLaren as 27 does to Ferrari or 5 does to Williams. If anything, 1 & 2 feel more like McLaren numbers to me, much as it pains me to admit it.

11 & 12 were only really Lotus numbers after 1979....the least successful period in the history of the team.

Senna in the JPS Lotus and then the Camel-yellow cars that followed are why I think of those numbers when I think of Lotus.

All of the above come from the fact that I started watching F1 in the '80s. The numbers bounced around too much prior to that gain a link to any driver or team. Once they stopped swapping numbers they started being an identifiable part of the teams. I will always associate 3 and 4 with Tyrrell even though the team was a shadow of it's former self when it carried those numbers.

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Fainnamoony Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 513 Senior Member	Renault's numbers were 15 & 16. Close enough. 27 is more a Williams number though, it was them who brought it to the fore and their 1980 championship victory is the reason why Gilles Villenueve had the 27 on his car. Before that, the number 27 had no relevance to Ferrari. Ask most Formula 1 fans which numbers belong to Ferrari and they'll say 27 and 28. I know Alan Jones won more races with that number than any other driver but it doesn't really matter. Gilles started the afinity for it and Alesi cemented the bond. For me, 27 belongs on a scarlet Ferrari and no other car. 7 & 8 were the numbers of the early Ron Dennis era, so do have a Mclaren link. I agree there's a link there but they don't seem as linked to McLaren as 27 does to Ferrari or 5 does to Williams. If anything, 1 & 2 feel more like McLaren numbers to me, much as it pains me to admit it. 11 & 12 were only really Lotus numbers after 1979....the least successful period in the history of the team. Senna in the JPS Lotus and then the Camel-yellow cars that followed are why I think of those numbers when I think of Lotus. All of the above come from the fact that I started watching F1 in the '80s. The numbers bounced around too much prior to that gain a link to any driver or team. Once they stopped swapping numbers they started being an identifiable part of the teams. I will always associate 3 and 4 with Tyrrell even though the team was a shadow of it's former self when it carried those numbers.
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