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**rolex-buy** · 03-28-2009, 12:10 AM

New teams in recent times

1994: Simtek, Pacific
1995: Forti
1996: ---
1997: (Prost), Stewart, Lola*,
1998: ---
1999: (BAR)
2000: (Jaguar)
2001:
2002: (Renault), Toyota
2003:
2004:
2005: (Red Bull)
2006: (Honda), (BMW), (Midland), (Toro Rosso), Super Aguri
2007: (Spyker)
2008: (Force India)
2009: (Brawn)

Teams in brackets are reincarnations of existing teams, while Lola is given an "honourary" star for erm.... only being able to show up at one race before folding

So overwhelmingly any "new" names team-wise in F1 have mostly been recycled existing teams, I know BAR was technically a new setup that bought only Tyrrell's FOCA membership and not a lot else, but we still lost Tyrrell as a result so IMO they never counted as a "new" team, conversely if that Postlethwaite-Honda thing hadn't been canned I'd have considered them a new outfit even if it was largely formed from the spine of the old Tyrrell team.

And there's a big argument for saying that Super Aguri would have found it a lot harder to get going in 2006 if Arrows hadn't folded 4 years previous, but I've put them in as a new team anyway since there was no direct continuation from Arrows to SA.

So that leaves Simtek (gone within a year and a half), Pacific (gone within two years), Forti (gone within a year and a half), Stewart and Toyota. Only the latter two are still with us, with only Toyota still operating under their original guise.

03-28-2009, 12:10 AM	#34
rolex-buy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 505 Senior Member	New teams in recent times 1994: Simtek, Pacific 1995: Forti 1996: --- 1997: (Prost), Stewart, Lola*, 1998: --- 1999: (BAR) 2000: (Jaguar) 2001: 2002: (Renault), Toyota 2003: 2004: 2005: (Red Bull) 2006: (Honda), (BMW), (Midland), (Toro Rosso), Super Aguri 2007: (Spyker) 2008: (Force India) 2009: (Brawn) Teams in brackets are reincarnations of existing teams, while Lola is given an "honourary" star for erm.... only being able to show up at one race before folding So overwhelmingly any "new" names team-wise in F1 have mostly been recycled existing teams, I know BAR was technically a new setup that bought only Tyrrell's FOCA membership and not a lot else, but we still lost Tyrrell as a result so IMO they never counted as a "new" team, conversely if that Postlethwaite-Honda thing hadn't been canned I'd have considered them a new outfit even if it was largely formed from the spine of the old Tyrrell team. And there's a big argument for saying that Super Aguri would have found it a lot harder to get going in 2006 if Arrows hadn't folded 4 years previous, but I've put them in as a new team anyway since there was no direct continuation from Arrows to SA. So that leaves Simtek (gone within a year and a half), Pacific (gone within two years), Forti (gone within a year and a half), Stewart and Toyota. Only the latter two are still with us, with only Toyota still operating under their original guise.
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