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**niemamczasu** · 10-12-2008, 08:24 PM

Watch this:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=7dKvZE0iuU8

At 0:06 they touched. Bourdais' car front end hit Massa's car rear end. You can see how the STR twitched while the Ferrari started spinning.

Given the position of the cars at that moment Bourdais has been overtaken and should have yielded the position. He wasn't squeezed out of the track either, and at the moment they touched he was close to the middle of the track.

IMO the Frenchman carried to much speed into Turn 1 given that he had a car on his outside. His mistake and his penalty.

I tried to be as objective as possible given the material we have at our disposal.

Good find but it's still pretty inconclusive.

An alternative reading of it is that Bourdais was holding as tight a line as he physically could do, and that Massa closed in a fraction too much and caught his front wheel. Surely Massa should have made more effort to hold a wider line, given that there was a car inside of him.

Also, Bourdais may not have been in the middle of the track, his car was dragged out wide by Massa's contact with him which is why he appears to be some distance from the inside kerb.

I guess we'll never know for certain though!

10-12-2008, 08:24 PM	#11
niemamczasu Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Watch this: http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=7dKvZE0iuU8 At 0:06 they touched. Bourdais' car front end hit Massa's car rear end. You can see how the STR twitched while the Ferrari started spinning. Given the position of the cars at that moment Bourdais has been overtaken and should have yielded the position. He wasn't squeezed out of the track either, and at the moment they touched he was close to the middle of the track. IMO the Frenchman carried to much speed into Turn 1 given that he had a car on his outside. His mistake and his penalty. I tried to be as objective as possible given the material we have at our disposal. Good find but it's still pretty inconclusive. An alternative reading of it is that Bourdais was holding as tight a line as he physically could do, and that Massa closed in a fraction too much and caught his front wheel. Surely Massa should have made more effort to hold a wider line, given that there was a car inside of him. Also, Bourdais may not have been in the middle of the track, his car was dragged out wide by Massa's contact with him which is why he appears to be some distance from the inside kerb. I guess we'll never know for certain though!
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