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**mr.supervideogoodfd** · 05-29-2008, 02:05 PM

Tallgeese

When one considers the facts it's that 'Americans simply can't race because their series are not competitive enough' & ex-F1 drivers in IRL or ChampCar tend to do much better (Fittipaldi, Mansell, or even Dornbos) whereas Sebastian Bourdais was originally an F1 candidate who ended up in ChampCar, but proved the superiority of the F1-learning curve. Let's try to put some facts and logic into our arguments before making blanket statements. As you can see, many other people in this thread have used historical race data to back up their points. It is also received much better.

I do believe (historically) that American Phil Hill won the Formula 1 title back in 1961. Which of course, some would say, was because of Ferrari's superior car and the death of Trips after his incident with Clark.

He was then followed by American Mario Andretti who won the F1 title back in 1978 while driving for Lotus. Andretti got the shaft when he first came into F1 (which is expected I guess, guys should have to earn their rides) and he did.

Now of course, Michael just can't do it, no mention that he obviously didn't have as good of equipment that his teammate did. I think we all know how that goes.

Hamilton has better equipment than Kovalainen right now. Maasa and Räikkönen might actually have very close equipment I can't tell whose is better.

We all know that the cars make the driver in Formula 1, anyone who denies that doesn't follow the sport. The cars make the driver, but it takes a great driver to do something special with that great car. I.E. Schumacher, Prost, Senna, Piquet, Lauda, Fittipaldi, Stewart...etc.etc.

All I am saying is, I would just appreciate a sound argument and not one off the hip without any intellectual thought towards the subject being commented.

And by the way. Marco shouldn't be in Formula 1, he hasn't done anything in IRL yet.

-Nic

P.S. Hugs and Kisses.
P.S.S. You can't compare NASCAR and F1. It is like eating an apple, then eating an orange, and trying to decide which kiwi tastes better. They are too different to make comparisons about which one is more difficult. They are each to their own.

05-29-2008, 02:05 PM	#26
mr.supervideogoodfd Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 456 Senior Member	Tallgeese When one considers the facts it's that 'Americans simply can't race because their series are not competitive enough' & ex-F1 drivers in IRL or ChampCar tend to do much better (Fittipaldi, Mansell, or even Dornbos) whereas Sebastian Bourdais was originally an F1 candidate who ended up in ChampCar, but proved the superiority of the F1-learning curve. Let's try to put some facts and logic into our arguments before making blanket statements. As you can see, many other people in this thread have used historical race data to back up their points. It is also received much better. I do believe (historically) that American Phil Hill won the Formula 1 title back in 1961. Which of course, some would say, was because of Ferrari's superior car and the death of Trips after his incident with Clark. He was then followed by American Mario Andretti who won the F1 title back in 1978 while driving for Lotus. Andretti got the shaft when he first came into F1 (which is expected I guess, guys should have to earn their rides) and he did. Now of course, Michael just can't do it, no mention that he obviously didn't have as good of equipment that his teammate did. I think we all know how that goes. Hamilton has better equipment than Kovalainen right now. Maasa and Räikkönen might actually have very close equipment I can't tell whose is better. We all know that the cars make the driver in Formula 1, anyone who denies that doesn't follow the sport. The cars make the driver, but it takes a great driver to do something special with that great car. I.E. Schumacher, Prost, Senna, Piquet, Lauda, Fittipaldi, Stewart...etc.etc. All I am saying is, I would just appreciate a sound argument and not one off the hip without any intellectual thought towards the subject being commented. And by the way. Marco shouldn't be in Formula 1, he hasn't done anything in IRL yet. -Nic P.S. Hugs and Kisses. P.S.S. You can't compare NASCAR and F1. It is like eating an apple, then eating an orange, and trying to decide which kiwi tastes better. They are too different to make comparisons about which one is more difficult. They are each to their own.
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