Yup. This was a dog doing what a dog instinctively does and totally the fault of the owner. The owner should have fenced in an area for the dogs to enjoy and never let them near the livestock without close supervision. The dog was fine and could be trusted, the human was not.[/QUOTE I agree,she had electric fence at the time and the dogs run right under it,since then she has put up dog wire fencing to keep dogs out of the horse pasture. ---------- Post added at 01:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 PM ---------- I had to be saracstic...ha..ha..Just kidding..so much controversy of the two being one in the same or separate breeds. I guess one would wonder why he lived so long in peace with them then this happen...I know a dog is a dog but my Pyr is totally 100% trusted around our farm animals..he protects them with his life!So not ALL dogs will kill and chase livestock..I dont agree with that statement at all..people pay big bucks for some dogs to protect there livestock.