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**mr.nemo** · 09-02-2012, 08:55 PM

"I guess one would wonder why he lived so long in peace with them then this happen...I know a dog is a dog but my Pyr is totally 100% trusted around our farm animals..he protects them with his life!So not ALL dogs will kill and chase livestock..I dont agree with that statement at all..people pay big bucks for some dogs to protect there livestock."
Precisely why you should gather information on a forum like this. Pit bulls are not monsters they are selectively bred dogs for the purpose of combat. One does not have to WONDER why something like this would happen after years of it not happening. One has to wonder why it did not happen sooner. If this is not understood by someone then that someone should not own one. Your husband has owned pit bulls for 15 years then I would guess the incident would not surprise him.

Every pit bull I ever owned was perfectly capable of behaving around other animals to some extent although they were all animal aggressive. From the time they became about 18 months old, you could see a change in the way they look at other animals, as if on some level they are battling with their instinct to seek and destroy.

My dog can walk calmly around other dogs, but if given a chance to make eye contact or stare at them for any length of time his training begins to break down and his urge to fight starts to overwhelm his ability to resist. It is the dog is a dog is a dog attitude that is the enemy of this breed. They are different and need to be treated as such. It isn't rocket science but most of us on this forum wish those who refuse to recognize the differences would do us all a favor and avoid owning the breed. This is not directed at you per se.

Most dogs even animal aggressive dogs would not tangle with a 1000 lb donkey. Most dogs, even aggressive dogs would be deterred by the size or any effort like a kick a donkey would deliver if bothered by a 50 lb dog. A pit bull on the other hand was bred to never be deterred, to ignore any pain or injury. A donkey kick only serves to heighten the dogs instinct to fight harder and more fiercly. They began as bull baiting dogs, and then were refined to even a higher standard of combat and determination. Why on earth would someone trust a bull baiting, animal combatant expert like a pit bull with live stock? It is like trusting a fox to guard your chickens, or trusting a lion to baby sit a deer.

09-02-2012, 08:55 PM	#20
mr.nemo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 446 Senior Member	"I guess one would wonder why he lived so long in peace with them then this happen...I know a dog is a dog but my Pyr is totally 100% trusted around our farm animals..he protects them with his life!So not ALL dogs will kill and chase livestock..I dont agree with that statement at all..people pay big bucks for some dogs to protect there livestock." Precisely why you should gather information on a forum like this. Pit bulls are not monsters they are selectively bred dogs for the purpose of combat. One does not have to WONDER why something like this would happen after years of it not happening. One has to wonder why it did not happen sooner. If this is not understood by someone then that someone should not own one. Your husband has owned pit bulls for 15 years then I would guess the incident would not surprise him. Every pit bull I ever owned was perfectly capable of behaving around other animals to some extent although they were all animal aggressive. From the time they became about 18 months old, you could see a change in the way they look at other animals, as if on some level they are battling with their instinct to seek and destroy. My dog can walk calmly around other dogs, but if given a chance to make eye contact or stare at them for any length of time his training begins to break down and his urge to fight starts to overwhelm his ability to resist. It is the dog is a dog is a dog attitude that is the enemy of this breed. They are different and need to be treated as such. It isn't rocket science but most of us on this forum wish those who refuse to recognize the differences would do us all a favor and avoid owning the breed. This is not directed at you per se. Most dogs even animal aggressive dogs would not tangle with a 1000 lb donkey. Most dogs, even aggressive dogs would be deterred by the size or any effort like a kick a donkey would deliver if bothered by a 50 lb dog. A pit bull on the other hand was bred to never be deterred, to ignore any pain or injury. A donkey kick only serves to heighten the dogs instinct to fight harder and more fiercly. They began as bull baiting dogs, and then were refined to even a higher standard of combat and determination. Why on earth would someone trust a bull baiting, animal combatant expert like a pit bull with live stock? It is like trusting a fox to guard your chickens, or trusting a lion to baby sit a deer.
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