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Old 05-13-2011, 03:06 AM   #11
Gakeincidoniac

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An APBT (American Pit Bull Terrier) can be registered by ADBA and UKC but not AKC.
An APBT is the slender, more agile and muscular.... more 'terrier' than 'bully'.
The Colby line is the eldest, longest owned and produced line of true APBTs.

Back in the day a few people wanted to get away from the fighting image of the APBT.
They chose to take their APBTs to AKC to be registered.
The only way AKC would register their dogs was if they changed the breed name to AST (American Staffordshire Terrier) because they didn't want to be associated with fighting dogs.
ASTs usually are a lil' larger, thicker and not as fit as an APBT.

Now this is the part that makes this difficult to understand in which you will find numerous debates over... but here's the jist of it...... everyone has different opinions therefore when you ask a 'simple' question... it may not be so simple after all:

-Some people view APBTs and ASTs as the same exact breed because the APBTs were never bred to any other breed before becoming the AST therefore they have the same ancestry.... they were just called a diff. name because of the registry change. These people see no differences between the APBT and AST whatsoever.

-Some people on the other hand view the APBT and AST as completely different breeds now because APBTs are bred to be game fighting dogs and the AST has been bred for show purposes (to look pretty). Because of the major difference in the reasons that they were bred for... some people feel as though the AST has lost the traits of the original APBT. These people notice all the differences of the APBT and AST and refuse to claim them the same at all because they feel that calling an AST is disrespectful to the true hard working APBTs and APBT breeders.

-And some people (myself included) view them as different types of the same breed. APBTs are the working type and ASTs being the show type. These people notice the all differences between the APBT and AST but because they share the same ancestry they feel they are different types of the same breed.



American Bullies are somewhat new with different looks.
Some standard AmBullys do resemble APBTs or ASTs.
But the other standards look absolutely nothing like an APBT or AST.
This 'breed' has numerous different classes; standard, pocket, extreme, etc. etc.
The standard class dogs are supposed to be APBT/AST bred together.....
The other standards most likely have other breeds mixed in to make them smaller to fit the pocket standard... or larger to make the extreme standard... but the other breeds mixed in never seem to make it in the pedigree.
But some AmBully owners will register their dogs through UKC and ADBA as APBTs (which really pisses off APBT owners).
The correct registry would be ABKC (American Bully Kennel Club).

So when people say 'you need to rip up your dogs papers' etc. they are talking about AmBully owners that have UKC and ADBA APBT papers.

It's pretty confusing especially for new people trying to learn.

Examples of Game APBT bloodlines(ADBA and/or UKC): Colby, Jeep, Sorrell, Wilder, Hemphill, Clouse, Mayfield, Carver
Examples of AmBully lines: Razors Edge, Gotti
There's many many more lines... those are just examples for ya.
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