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**pE71J5Sw** · 11-24-2011, 06:44 AM

I'm not anti- e-collar's, but I am anti- excessive force when not necessary.

This.

I've heard nothing but bad things about that program and there are a lot of easier more fun ways to teach your dog something as simple as the basic commands

11-24-2011, 06:44 AM	#10
pE71J5Sw Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 433 Senior Member	I'm not anti- e-collar's, but I am anti- excessive force when not necessary. This. I've heard nothing but bad things about that program and there are a lot of easier more fun ways to teach your dog something as simple as the basic commands
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