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**vigraxtru** · 12-08-2011, 07:00 PM

It's the other way around, Amstaffs come from Apbt's. Some strains till today are genetically the same as Apbt's, but most of them aren't.

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I can understand not calling staff an apbt but why call an apbt a staff

Howard Heinzl - 'When I start breeding for color I'll sure call them Staffordshires, because that's all they will be in a couple of generations'. That's why.

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I was told that if your apbt isn't gamebred then it's not a real bylkdog but a staff

An Apbt is/was only called a bulldog when proven game. However most of the new kids throw the term 'bulldog' around when referring to Apbt's, just because they read that's what oldtimers used to call them.

12-08-2011, 07:00 PM	#10
vigraxtru Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 421 Senior Member	It's the other way around, Amstaffs come from Apbt's. Some strains till today are genetically the same as Apbt's, but most of them aren't. ---------- Post added at 05:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:56 PM ---------- I can understand not calling staff an apbt but why call an apbt a staff Howard Heinzl - 'When I start breeding for color I'll sure call them Staffordshires, because that's all they will be in a couple of generations'. That's why. ---------- Post added at 06:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:57 PM ---------- I was told that if your apbt isn't gamebred then it's not a real bylkdog but a staff An Apbt is/was only called a bulldog when proven game. However most of the new kids throw the term 'bulldog' around when referring to Apbt's, just because they read that's what oldtimers used to call them.
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