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**gWhya5ct** · 07-24-2010, 11:15 PM

Lots of breeds were used for fighting/gladiator dogs not just this one. Dog fighting is illegal in my country and was a thing of the past. APBTs today are used for many other different purposes and are a very versatile breed.

Now ask yourself why 20 or 30 years back when people did fight the dogs (and further back when it was still legal) there weren't all these cases of out of control dogs attacking people or the neighbor's pets. There weren't all these myths and rumors about how dangerous the dogs are back then, wonder why.

Look at how many people are afraid to even discuss it because they are afraid discussing it will be seen as advocating it, supporting it, whatever. It is what made the breed, a person wants to claim they love the breed, but they don't want to touch their history with a ten foot pole. Seems to be some disconnect there. Unless a person actually has looked into how it was done, what occured when it was done, how the owners/handlers managed and cared for the dogs, and so on, then explain to me just how it is they KNOW it was cruel, the dogs were abused, etc. They don't even KNOW anything about it but they KNOW it was cruel? Yea, pull the other one why don't you.

Why are there so many curs, temperamentally unstable dogs, DA dogs with owners that don't know how to control it, etc. out there?

You can argue with me all you want but I think history is going to prove that the very people claiming they are trying to protect the breed from cruelty are the very people that are destroying it.

Because history has shown already that the breed never had these problems until they got involved.

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The drive and willingness to please I suppose.

How do you suppose that was developed and continued and what happens when the breeding standards and screening process that were used to build that up are no longer in place?

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So what the hell is the use for their gameness?? Dog aggression is only problematic...

Proof you know nothing about what gameness is. Gameness is not Dog Aggression, there were plenty of dead on game dogs that were not DA.

And there are a boatload of DA dogs that are not game.

But you don't want to learn.

07-24-2010, 11:15 PM	#38
gWhya5ct Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 482 Senior Member	Lots of breeds were used for fighting/gladiator dogs not just this one. Dog fighting is illegal in my country and was a thing of the past. APBTs today are used for many other different purposes and are a very versatile breed. Now ask yourself why 20 or 30 years back when people did fight the dogs (and further back when it was still legal) there weren't all these cases of out of control dogs attacking people or the neighbor's pets. There weren't all these myths and rumors about how dangerous the dogs are back then, wonder why. Look at how many people are afraid to even discuss it because they are afraid discussing it will be seen as advocating it, supporting it, whatever. It is what made the breed, a person wants to claim they love the breed, but they don't want to touch their history with a ten foot pole. Seems to be some disconnect there. Unless a person actually has looked into how it was done, what occured when it was done, how the owners/handlers managed and cared for the dogs, and so on, then explain to me just how it is they KNOW it was cruel, the dogs were abused, etc. They don't even KNOW anything about it but they KNOW it was cruel? Yea, pull the other one why don't you. Why are there so many curs, temperamentally unstable dogs, DA dogs with owners that don't know how to control it, etc. out there? You can argue with me all you want but I think history is going to prove that the very people claiming they are trying to protect the breed from cruelty are the very people that are destroying it. Because history has shown already that the breed never had these problems until they got involved. ---------- Post added at 03:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:08 PM ---------- The drive and willingness to please I suppose. How do you suppose that was developed and continued and what happens when the breeding standards and screening process that were used to build that up are no longer in place? ---------- Post added at 03:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:10 PM ---------- So what the hell is the use for their gameness?? Dog aggression is only problematic... Proof you know nothing about what gameness is. Gameness is not Dog Aggression, there were plenty of dead on game dogs that were not DA. And there are a boatload of DA dogs that are not game. But you don't want to learn.
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