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Assuming there is no correlation between "game" in the pit and the dog's abilities to perform outside of the pit, unless you are planning to fight the dog, who cares about game?

To me it's like bragging about how you dog comes from a line of great racers yet all you and your dog do is lay around the house.

I guess I don't see the benefit of calling a dog game or game breed. The whole thing seems like an ego trip to me.

i agree entirely.......90 % of todays " gamebred " dogs as there owners like to call them will never have a tooth in them.......your absolutely right its all ego,s.....its like owning a ferrari and keeping it in the garage to look at and brag to your pals......a ferrari is a slow car if it doesnt move so who really cares !
a lot of folk today like to read pedigrees and try to compare their young pup to its ancestors....if they have a jeep dog that has a similar looking mouth or the ear carriage looks the same they say the dogs " just like ch jeep i better breed it to another pure jeep dog "....then if it growls or grabs hold of the neighbors poodle......ITS DEFINATELY A JEEP DOG AND GAMEBRED !!!!

---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:52 PM ----------

Like Woody said, if that's not a gamebred pup according to your standards then so be it.

I still think M. Carver put gamebred pups on the ground, whether he tested his brood matrons or not and produced more game dogs than most of us have. Not to mention how successful he had become in the dog game. But I guess he had no common sense...

"Jim" from down the street wouldn't even come close.

so if less than 50 % of a dogs close up heritage is untested...thats a gamebred dog in your book is it ?...some folk just dont set their standards high enough if thats the case.
yes carver put game dogs and match winners out into the game so what....it still doesnt make his breeding principals correct in what we today know to be " breeding gamedogs "......if you want to take carvers word to the bank because he had a good record in dogs then so be it.....

ronald mcdonald has a good name in cheeseburgers but he probably couldnt cook one !.....some folk hang on every word they are told by their elders and betters without even questioning it..........i used to sit for many hours talking breeding with one of the best breeders i ever knew in the game but as much as i learned there was some stuff i plain didnt agree with....breeding is about opinions,if one man was right we would all just copy him !

---------- Post added at 01:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------

Having said all of that, I say I have "gamebred" dogs most of all to distinguish that I own the "old style" APBT and face it, most lay people out there have no idea what "Old Style" means, but they do know what Gamebred means.

i believe the terminology is wrong.........to say a pup is bred off game stock cheapens the word game unless that pup has game parents and gr parents......if not it becomes an innacurate description....

the word " game " just gets thrown around these days with no real meaning and tragically the word has lost a lot of meaning.....anybody who has ever witnessed the kind of tearjerking gameness that some of these dogs have shown will have a higher value of the word than somebody who has not witnessed it.....

so to just use the term with no real meaning is an insult to the many genuine game dogs of today and yesterday.....

a pup from fighting stock......is a far more accurate desrciption.....but i guess a pup from game stock is a description that sells far more pups