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**Fiipolera** · 09-06-2009, 07:36 AM

BINGO - Coolhandjean. Thanks

OK I AM SO CONFUSED ITS NOT FUNNY, LOL.

I dont know anything about the standards etc. So all this is going over my head.

So the first 4 photo's posted are incorrect??

The first - AMBULLY - Short, stocky - In australia is just called a STAFFY. - What is this called in USA, Is this the one which is not recognised?

Second - American Staff - Is this AST? And a recognised breed?

Third - American Staff Bull Terrier - No such thing???

Forth - American Pit Bull Terrier - APBT - This is restricted in AUS, But this is from the AUS policy -
(a) dogo Argentino;
(b) fila Brasileiro;
( c) Japanese tosa;
(d) American pit bull terrier;
(e) pit bull terrier; or - (SO WHAT THE HELL IS THIS, HAVE THE AUSSIE'S GOT IT WRONG HERE?)
(-THE PRESA CANARIO WAS ADDED NOV 16 2005. Yet to be updated on
State Gov Site.
( See Circular No 29-2005 for more details))

If there is no such thing as a pit bull terrier, then I can ignore th above (e).

And Bull Terrier - is the one above fromColhandjean?

My AMSTAFF was bought from a pet shop without paper (I know I know, I wanted papers,but my partner fell in love). But they are allowed to sell without, it does not make him a APBT.

Basically this is my question -

I am looking for a leaner, taller breed. If this happens to be the APBT, then I am out of luck. As an AMSTAFF is wider accross the chest etc correct??

without papers, if council rangers ask you about your dog and you have no papers you stuffed, any American staffie without papers is auto declared a American pitbull, this is due to everyone buying pitbulls and registign them as american staffies, so registers and microchip it as a amstaff cross,

if you get into stife you will need to breed asses and temp test your dog, otherswise if you dont follow the guidlines, cage muzle ect, the dog will be put to sleep with in 28 days, you can get an extension tho.

you will need to read up on all the laws ect, so if someoen dobs you in, or the rangers come past you will know waht to do, makes life easier

but liek i sed, PM me if you want anymore info

09-06-2009, 07:36 AM	#34
Fiipolera Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	BINGO - Coolhandjean. Thanks OK I AM SO CONFUSED ITS NOT FUNNY, LOL. I dont know anything about the standards etc. So all this is going over my head. So the first 4 photo's posted are incorrect?? The first - AMBULLY - Short, stocky - In australia is just called a STAFFY. - What is this called in USA, Is this the one which is not recognised? Second - American Staff - Is this AST? And a recognised breed? Third - American Staff Bull Terrier - No such thing??? Forth - American Pit Bull Terrier - APBT - This is restricted in AUS, But this is from the AUS policy - (a) dogo Argentino; (b) fila Brasileiro; ( c) Japanese tosa; (d) American pit bull terrier; (e) pit bull terrier; or - (SO WHAT THE HELL IS THIS, HAVE THE AUSSIE'S GOT IT WRONG HERE?) (-THE PRESA CANARIO WAS ADDED NOV 16 2005. Yet to be updated on State Gov Site. ( See Circular No 29-2005 for more details)) If there is no such thing as a pit bull terrier, then I can ignore th above (e). And Bull Terrier - is the one above fromColhandjean? My AMSTAFF was bought from a pet shop without paper (I know I know, I wanted papers,but my partner fell in love). But they are allowed to sell without, it does not make him a APBT. Basically this is my question - I am looking for a leaner, taller breed. If this happens to be the APBT, then I am out of luck. As an AMSTAFF is wider accross the chest etc correct?? without papers, if council rangers ask you about your dog and you have no papers you stuffed, any American staffie without papers is auto declared a American pitbull, this is due to everyone buying pitbulls and registign them as american staffies, so registers and microchip it as a amstaff cross, if you get into stife you will need to breed asses and temp test your dog, otherswise if you dont follow the guidlines, cage muzle ect, the dog will be put to sleep with in 28 days, you can get an extension tho. you will need to read up on all the laws ect, so if someoen dobs you in, or the rangers come past you will know waht to do, makes life easier but liek i sed, PM me if you want anymore info
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