they e-mailed me a copy of the papers and pictures of the dam and sire this morning. the sire is freakishly huge. when i looked at the papers his dam and sire are razers edge blood lines. i remember hearing how they were cross breeding to get the size and color they wanted. i also remember reading were people were calling for ukc to pull the papers on them. i called them this morning and warned them that the sire was not a true apbt. they shouldn't be waiste tall and 105 pounds!!! the sire is just a mutt. a bully type not a apbt. i told them i would not be breeding my dog to a dog like that when the time comes. i also remember them telling me the dog's owners were looking to get a new blood line to introduce to thiers. i think they are running a byb type set up. but none the less i bet they buy it!!! by the way, what does byb stand for? biuld your breed or what?