As I stated, I am in Australia. I have no idea who you are talking about or the laws for each area you are in. Of course pits seized from a fighting situation would be PTS,,,,that was what the OP was about. Dogs assumed to be fighting. IF they are taken from a fighting scene it would be assumed they are fighters. Do NOT think a dog needs to be OF AGE to be trained for fighting. They begin training as soon as they can walk about. Pups as young as 3 months are killed in continual fights. How else do you get the 'pick' of the litters??? I may not know about all your USA APBT breeds/lines and associations BUT after many years here trying to work with police to stop illegal fighting I have learnt and seen a hell of alot more in regards to Fighting Dogs,,(Dogs bred and used in illegal fighting). If this site is going to be WWW and open to all countries then I guess you just have to put up with the fact that people from other areas/countries will have different problems/issues, laws and legislation, along with different areas they follow amongst the breed.