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**kvitacencia** · 06-07-2011, 03:36 PM

No, Soot, before they invented the Newspeak, goodthink, phrase "collateral damage" for killing women and kids, the operative word was "murder", possibly second degree murder, but still murder.

No, Tom, before "they" invented the Newspeak, goodthink, phrase "collateral damage" nobody even bothered to keep track of the unintentional killing of civilians on the battlefield or pay it any mind at all.

At no point in the history of humanity has the issue of collateral damage been taken more seriously than it is right now, nor has any nation on Earth gone to greater lengths and expense to minimize it than the United States has and is presently.

From Dictionary.com

mur·der /ˈmɜrdər/ Show Spelled
[mur-der] Show IPA
–noun
1. Law . the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder). According to that definition, collateral damage is absolutely NOT murder:

collateral damage
n.
Unintended damage, injuries, or deaths caused by an action, especially unintended civilian casualties caused by a military operation. Back to the drawing board with you Tom.

You don't know history and you don't even know the meaning of the words you're talking about.

06-07-2011, 03:36 PM	#12
kvitacencia Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 432 Senior Member	No, Soot, before they invented the Newspeak, goodthink, phrase "collateral damage" for killing women and kids, the operative word was "murder", possibly second degree murder, but still murder. No, Tom, before "they" invented the Newspeak, goodthink, phrase "collateral damage" nobody even bothered to keep track of the unintentional killing of civilians on the battlefield or pay it any mind at all. At no point in the history of humanity has the issue of collateral damage been taken more seriously than it is right now, nor has any nation on Earth gone to greater lengths and expense to minimize it than the United States has and is presently. From Dictionary.com mur·der /ˈmɜrdər/ Show Spelled [mur-der] Show IPA –noun 1. Law . the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder). According to that definition, collateral damage is absolutely NOT murder: collateral damage n. Unintended damage, injuries, or deaths caused by an action, especially unintended civilian casualties caused by a military operation. Back to the drawing board with you Tom. You don't know history and you don't even know the meaning of the words you're talking about.
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