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**Queueftof** · 04-05-2011, 04:28 PM

Pakistan probably knew the location of OBL and just didnt tell us.
After all, they arent really an ally, more of an acquaintance.

First of all, I don't think it's fair to say that Pakistan isn't our ally.

Pakistan is the "port" through which all American military supplies going into Afghanistan pass through. This has been the case for going on ten years now. The alternative to Pakistan? Iran or go home.

Pakistan has also been very cool recently about allowing our forces to attack AQ/Taliban elements along its border.

Given the political situation in Pakistan and the prevelance of Islamism it's amazing they've even given us that much.

OUR war on terror in Afghanistan has destabilized Pakistan to the point where they're fighting a de facto civil war along their western border.

You don't call that an alliance?

We consider Israel an ally and they don't do dick for us. They certainly haven't bent over backwards to the degree Pakistan has.

What you're failing to take into consideration, in my opinion, is that full-scale support from Pakistan in the GWOT would probably lead to a full scale war in Pakistan that would overthrow the existing government, install a theocracy, and oh yeah, Pakistan has nuclear weapons.

I think Pakistan has done everything that they could reasonably support our mission in the region.

To help us at the expense of destroying their country isn't something I'd expect, or even ask, any nation to do.

And besides he was right next to their capital, so wither Pakistani security is so poor they didnt notice, or they just ignored him. I think towards the latter. He was located in a walled compound and in all likelyhood didn't stick his head up too much.

I'm sure that some folks suspected that there was a person of interest living on the compound based on the same circumstantial that the White House is releasing in respect to our tracking him down.

But who exactly was living on the compound was likely a secret.

It could have been anyone, and people were coming and going from the compound all the time. There's no reason that I can think of for anyone to suspect that the people who were coming and going weren't the only occupants of the property.

If bin Laden was living on a walled compound on an acre of property in Virginia, right under the nose of the U.S. governmnet, the CIA, and within a few miles of the Naval Base from which the JSOC SEALs who were involved in this mission, and he didn't stick his head up, we probably would never know thhat he was there.

Would that make the U.S. government complicit in some wild conspiracy to harbor terrorists?

As for the "Pakistani version of West Point" being located in Abbottabad, so what?

Have you ever dealt with West Point cadets or shave tail 2nd LT's?

I have. By and large they're idiots.

Bin Laden could have been attending West Point and his peers probably wouldn't have noticed it...

04-05-2011, 04:28 PM	#38
Queueftof Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 460 Senior Member	Pakistan probably knew the location of OBL and just didnt tell us. After all, they arent really an ally, more of an acquaintance. First of all, I don't think it's fair to say that Pakistan isn't our ally. Pakistan is the "port" through which all American military supplies going into Afghanistan pass through. This has been the case for going on ten years now. The alternative to Pakistan? Iran or go home. Pakistan has also been very cool recently about allowing our forces to attack AQ/Taliban elements along its border. Given the political situation in Pakistan and the prevelance of Islamism it's amazing they've even given us that much. OUR war on terror in Afghanistan has destabilized Pakistan to the point where they're fighting a de facto civil war along their western border. You don't call that an alliance? We consider Israel an ally and they don't do dick for us. They certainly haven't bent over backwards to the degree Pakistan has. What you're failing to take into consideration, in my opinion, is that full-scale support from Pakistan in the GWOT would probably lead to a full scale war in Pakistan that would overthrow the existing government, install a theocracy, and oh yeah, Pakistan has nuclear weapons. I think Pakistan has done everything that they could reasonably support our mission in the region. To help us at the expense of destroying their country isn't something I'd expect, or even ask, any nation to do. And besides he was right next to their capital, so wither Pakistani security is so poor they didnt notice, or they just ignored him. I think towards the latter. He was located in a walled compound and in all likelyhood didn't stick his head up too much. I'm sure that some folks suspected that there was a person of interest living on the compound based on the same circumstantial that the White House is releasing in respect to our tracking him down. But who exactly was living on the compound was likely a secret. It could have been anyone, and people were coming and going from the compound all the time. There's no reason that I can think of for anyone to suspect that the people who were coming and going weren't the only occupants of the property. If bin Laden was living on a walled compound on an acre of property in Virginia, right under the nose of the U.S. governmnet, the CIA, and within a few miles of the Naval Base from which the JSOC SEALs who were involved in this mission, and he didn't stick his head up, we probably would never know thhat he was there. Would that make the U.S. government complicit in some wild conspiracy to harbor terrorists? As for the "Pakistani version of West Point" being located in Abbottabad, so what? Have you ever dealt with West Point cadets or shave tail 2nd LT's? I have. By and large they're idiots. Bin Laden could have been attending West Point and his peers probably wouldn't have noticed it...
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