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**Avaindimik** · 08-06-2011, 07:36 PM

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As you can see, the authority to declare was lies with the Congress, not the President.

That relates to the power to declare war. You said: "Minus the War Powers Act the President can't carry out any acts of war, for any period of time, w/o Congressional approval." Mr. Obama has not declared war; that would be in contravention of the Constitution. He's ordered the military to engage in combat, which is within his purview as Commander in Chief, and anticipated by the War Powers Resolution.

Do you also think it was "illegal" when Thomas Jefferson ordered combat actions in Libya?

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As you can see this is in violation of the Constitution. Additionally, Obama is currently in violation of the violation. So I dunno what that makes what he's doing. Do two negatives make a positive?

You're now saying the War Powers Act is unconstitutional? Please clarify.

You didn't quote any language from the War Powers Act, much less any language authorizing the President to conduct war in contravention of the Constitution.

As to the third demand you made....I have no need to answer that as what you said contradicts itself and doesn't even make logical sense. So basically you answered that demand yourself using a logic fallacy. Your argument depends on the logical fallacy. Congress has no authority to amend the Constitution by statute, giving the President powers he doesn't otherwise have. Do you acknowledge that?

You claim to have developed this belief that the action in Libya is illegal based on some argument that has merit but you've yet to share it with anyone.

08-06-2011, 07:36 PM	#25
Avaindimik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	War Powers Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia As you can see, the authority to declare was lies with the Congress, not the President. That relates to the power to declare war. You said: "Minus the War Powers Act the President can't carry out any acts of war, for any period of time, w/o Congressional approval." Mr. Obama has not declared war; that would be in contravention of the Constitution. He's ordered the military to engage in combat, which is within his purview as Commander in Chief, and anticipated by the War Powers Resolution. Do you also think it was "illegal" when Thomas Jefferson ordered combat actions in Libya? War Powers Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia As you can see this is in violation of the Constitution. Additionally, Obama is currently in violation of the violation. So I dunno what that makes what he's doing. Do two negatives make a positive? You're now saying the War Powers Act is unconstitutional? Please clarify. You didn't quote any language from the War Powers Act, much less any language authorizing the President to conduct war in contravention of the Constitution. As to the third demand you made....I have no need to answer that as what you said contradicts itself and doesn't even make logical sense. So basically you answered that demand yourself using a logic fallacy. Your argument depends on the logical fallacy. Congress has no authority to amend the Constitution by statute, giving the President powers he doesn't otherwise have. Do you acknowledge that? You claim to have developed this belief that the action in Libya is illegal based on some argument that has merit but you've yet to share it with anyone.
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