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**Gymngatagaica** · 09-06-2011, 12:19 PM

OK. Is it fair to say, then, that you believe that the reservation to Congress of the power to declare war precludes the President from giving combat orders without a Congressional declaration of war?

The way your worded this statement gives an ambiguous connotation. I'm saying that the President cannot, initially, give "combat orders" (orders where we actually attack or strike another country) w/o the Congress declaring war. Once war is declared the President runs the show as he sees fit. He does not have to go to Congress and ask permission for each and every operation or mission that is carried out.

Can you cite the language in the resolution that purportedly grants to the President the power to prosecute a war? "Resolution"? I assume you are then talking about the War Powers Resolution. I've already quoted it. If you want, you can scroll up and read it again.

And this is something new you've discovered? Not particularly, I'm just paying attention more to what our government is doing and I'm not writing it off anymore because ignoring the law leads to tyranny and we are seeing the process of tyranny creeping across our nation as our personal liberties and dignity are being stripped away. I'm no longer willing to accept how things are currently being run because it's all a giant smoke-screen of bullshit. This is all about money.

Now, I've answered many of your questions and will not answer a single one more until you answer mine.

Why have we not gone into the Sudan yet?

Why are we not going into Yemen?

Why are we trade partners with China?

Why have we not gone into the Congo?

09-06-2011, 12:19 PM	#30
Gymngatagaica Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 405 Senior Member	OK. Is it fair to say, then, that you believe that the reservation to Congress of the power to declare war precludes the President from giving combat orders without a Congressional declaration of war? The way your worded this statement gives an ambiguous connotation. I'm saying that the President cannot, initially, give "combat orders" (orders where we actually attack or strike another country) w/o the Congress declaring war. Once war is declared the President runs the show as he sees fit. He does not have to go to Congress and ask permission for each and every operation or mission that is carried out. Can you cite the language in the resolution that purportedly grants to the President the power to prosecute a war? "Resolution"? I assume you are then talking about the War Powers Resolution. I've already quoted it. If you want, you can scroll up and read it again. And this is something new you've discovered? Not particularly, I'm just paying attention more to what our government is doing and I'm not writing it off anymore because ignoring the law leads to tyranny and we are seeing the process of tyranny creeping across our nation as our personal liberties and dignity are being stripped away. I'm no longer willing to accept how things are currently being run because it's all a giant smoke-screen of bullshit. This is all about money. Now, I've answered many of your questions and will not answer a single one more until you answer mine. Why have we not gone into the Sudan yet? Why are we not going into Yemen? Why are we trade partners with China? Why have we not gone into the Congo?
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